Star Trek V..... what the?

[Computer]

Hello all,

I just watched Star Trek V for the first time in a while the other day and I was forced to ask what I had just watched when it was over...

IMHO the story was far fetched even for Star Trek, and can anyone explain the deal with the visual FX? TMP to IV and then VI had great effects that I think hold up to this day but man Trek 5 just made me think we were in the 60's again.

The planet at "the center of the galaxy" was a bit disappointing to say the least which makes whats to come so obvious, you really think anyone will buy the idea that the creator of the universe lives underground and when his children finally reach him his throne is a few rocks popping out of the ground?

They could have just edited in Oz's chamber from the wizard of Oz and I would have found it 10 times more believable.

Oh and the galactic barrier was just a bad mushroom trip.

Im not a TOS basher by any means, I own and love all their movies except this one.

 

[Dane_Whitman]

Star Trek V is a mess. It's the one Trek movie I have a real hard time getting through.

 

[Amaris]

Star Trek V is my second favorite Trek movie of all time.


J.

 

[Ryan Thomas Riddle]

To be certain, TFF has a fair amount of problems from script to effects, but it is the only of the TOS movies to truly try and test the relationship of Kirk, Spock and McCoy and delve deeper into who these men really are and what they mean to each other.

 

[A beaker full of death]

Tuesday already. No kidding.

 

[Ezri]

Computer said:
Oh and the galactic barrier was just a bad mushroom trip.

Why does GOD need a starship (?)

Answer: Magic Mushrooms

 

[archeryguy1701]

It's not nearly as bad of a movie as it is often made out to be, but it was somewhat disappointing, especially compared to several of the other movies. As for the VFX, from what I recall, someone left the project, and that led to the studio pulling a large chunk of the budget.

 

[Borjis]

archeryguy1701 said:
It's not nearly as bad of a movie as it is often made out to be, but it was somewhat disappointing, especially compared to several of the other movies. As for the VFX, from what I recall, someone left the project, and that led to the studio pulling a large chunk of the budget.

that and I think the wasted money on the "rock man" definitely ate huge chunk of the vfx budget.

 

[Nebusj]

Computer said:
The planet at "the center of the galaxy" was a bit disappointing to say the least which makes whats to come so obvious, you really think anyone will buy the idea that the creator of the universe lives underground and when his children finally reach him his throne is a few rocks popping out of the ground?

Why not? If God is a real, physical entity with a central presence somewhere, then He has to be somewhere, and why not here? Humans have a couple of popular religions that suppose all sorts of essential things happened in a spot that otherwise looks like a pretty lousy desert; why should God be making covenants and sending offspring there instead of obviously better garden spots?

For that matter, why wouldn't Sybok's God be somewhere that for a Vulcan probably seems quite like home?

Oh and the galactic barrier was just a bad mushroom trip.

But appropriate to the story, both as Sybok imagines it to be and as the entities who were trying to lock up Admiral Hanson were setting things up. The jailers wanted to keep other creatures from getting at Hanson and letting him go; thus, here's a region which somehow builds upon your fears -- of it, no less! -- and destroys those who don't turn away.

As a Trek concept, it follows pretty well with the Barrier on the outside of the galaxy, not to mention with entities like the Pinwheel of Hate from ``Day of the Dove'' or Redjak from ``Wolf in the Fold''; in a universe where those things happen, why not the Great Barrier?

(It also plays thematically to one of the traditional Trek premises, that logic is a useful tool to get you to places -- and without Vulcan mental discipline the Enterprise couldn't have gotten through the Barrier -- but it isn't by itself enough to handle what you will find.)

 

[Computer]

Wait Nebusj Whats this about Admiral Hanson? more detail please.

I understand what your saying about the other parts, however I disagree that it was Vulcan mental discipline that got them through the barrier, I think it spoke more to the tune of human faith (even if that faith wasnt coming from a human)

 

[GodThingFormerly]

Computer said:
Wait Nebusj Whats this about Admiral Hanson? more detail please.

George Murdock - the actor who played "God" in ST:TFF - also portrayed Admiral Hanson in the ST:TNG two-parter The Best of Both Worlds.

TGT

 

[Guy Gardener]

Ezri said:

Computer said:
Oh and the galactic barrier was just a bad mushroom trip.

Why does GOD need a starship (?)

Answer: Magic Mushrooms

No.

the correct answer is: "To get to the other side".

Star Trek V, should have been a cross over with V. For Victory, not forVendetta, not that wouldn't be so bad.

I was just waiting for for Star Trek XXX where the cast just goes porno. But we'll never get there.

By the way... The great Barrier is around the centre of the galaqxy, and the galactic barrier is around the perimiter.

I recall Shatner taking credit for V being superb in his Futurama guest spot. How involved behind the scenes was he?

 

[Computer]

The God Thing said:

Computer said:
Wait Nebusj Whats this about Admiral Hanson? more detail please.

George Murdock - the actor who played "God" in ST:TFF - also portrayed Admiral Hanson in the ST:TNG two-parter The Best of Both Worlds.

TGT

lmao I had no idea and I was about to hate the movie even more if the writers were so arrogant as to make the center of the galaxy a prison for a naughty Starfleet admiral.

 

[misskim86]

Ok what happened was that Lucas industrial light and magic that had made the effects for 2-4 were busy with Indiana Jones 3 so they had to hire some new company and they weren't as good as ILM.

Now about the movie, I really like it, sure it's not epic but it has amazing character scenes and I view the movie more as a Star Trek episode more than an epic movie and if you do that the movie really works. You can't tell me ST:V isn't like a classic TOS episode.

 

[steveman]

IMO, it's not only the worst Trek movie... it's honestly one of the worst movies I've ever seen.

It's two redeeming qualities are that there are, indeed, some good character moments and also some legitimately funny comedy scenes (Scotty konking his head, for one).

 

[archeryguy1701]

Guy Gardener said:
I recall Shatner taking credit for V being superb in his Futurama guest spot. How involved behind the scenes was he?

He was the director, and I believe he was in charge of most of the script rewrite.

 

[A beaker full of death]

It's one of the better Trek movies and pretty much the only one to capture the feeling of the series. The plot, of course, is very Roddenberryesque.
But if your hangup is that elevator floor continuity, then I guess the film ain't for you. Way to focus on the important stuff, people.

 

[ClayinCA]

OK, seriously? Not to devalue your opinion, 'cause if you hated it, you hated it, but if Star Trek V: The Final Frontier is really one of the worst movies you've ever seen, you should count yourself lucky, because there's way worse movies than Trek V out there. Batman and Robin, for one. Meet Joe Dirt, for another. And don't even get me started on, say, Freddy Got Fingered...

 

[Peach Wookiee]

I personally love Trek V...

 

[Trekwatcher]

TFF is a tough one for me. There are a small handful of great scenes in the film, almost all of which invovle the big three commenting, in some way, on their friendship over the years. It is also interesting to see something (Sybok) come betweek Kirk and Spock (i.e. the scene on the hangar deck).

That having been said, the movie is almost impossible for me to watch. There are so many gaffes and awkward scenes that it is just painful (i.e. the Scotty/Uhura scene gives me shudders it is so badly handled). Add to this the dreadful effects are you are not left with much value to this outing.

I remember when I saw it in the theater I was just grimacing my way through it.

It was on HBO this past friday and I could only bring myself to watch about 10 mins of it.