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Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 1x10 - "A Quality of Mercy"

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Oh, and another thing occurred to me. Of course, the Romulans had a fleet ready to call in. The whole point of the Romulan's secret mission was to see if the Federation would respond but they were also taking out the observation outposts so they could bring a massive fleet over unobserved should they decide to invade.

The Romulans were ready to invade. No surprise they had a nearby fleet on call!
 
There's also evidence for Warp Capable TOS Shuttles in TOS - S2 Metamorphisis as when the 1701 'backtracks' the Shuttle (taken away by the Companion), they are backtracking from Interstellar space; they're not within the confines of a single Star System.
Sulu also says they're detecting the shuttle's antimatter. I suppose anti-matter doesn't have to equate to warp drive, but it seems likely.
 
I wonder if the SNW season 2 episode where Pike has to defend Una's right to be a Starfleet officer will be titled "The Measure of a Woman" to echo the TNG season 2 episode title?
We learn something about Una's punishment. She can't communicate with anyone. That doesn't sound like a typical Federation punishment. Wouldn't they banish her possibly. Or have her in a regular prison or something. But no communication at all with the outside universe for 7 years. Something's wrong there.

It makes me think it's a Section 31 thing and they're trying to use her modifications for developing super soldiers or something.

Not sure but it doesn't sound right!
 
Pike's plan was working. The Romulan Commander seemed willing to negotiate. Then "Decius" called the fleet behind his back. Which kind of sucked for "Decius" since he wound up getting culled and blown up.
Yeah, but in Kirk's timeline that didn't happen because Kirk didn't try to negotiate a cease fire.
 
Their challenge here is not finding someone to live up to Shatner. It's finding someone you'd want to see replace Mount, who's now made Pike the best starship captain in Trek, ever.
I like Mount a lot, but I wouldn't go that far! He's in the top several. But, to each their own!
 
The Farragut's presence was more of a hindrance too. The SNW Enterprise took more less the same path thru the comet as the TOS Enterprise which put it on the opposite of the comet's tail. They could've then fired from a standoff distance and run when fired upon by the Bird of Prey (like how it happened in TOS). But the Farragut was where the Bird of Prey double backed to forcing the Enterprise to come to defend the Farragut after SNW Kirk decided to try and slug it out at close range instead of being cautious of the plasma bolt like TOS Kirk. SNW Pike's Enterprise by itself would've had more success, IMHO.
Nope. After the Enterprise came out of the comet, there was a palpable hesitation. Kirk had to call the Enterprise and tell them that the BoP was not where it should be. Spock concurred. That delay gave the BoP time to destroy the Farragut and hammer the Enterprise.

Meanwhile, in Balance of Power, Kirk reacted quickly after exiting the comet and pounded the Bird of Prey. I believe it was at this point when the Romulan Commander referred to Kirk as a sorcerer.

Going into the same comet situation with two ships instead of one should've given Pike and Kirk together an advantage over Kirk going it alone.
 
Nope. After the Enterprise came out of the comet, there was a palpable hesitation. Kirk had to call the Enterprise and tell them that the BoP was not where it should be. Spock concurred. That delay gave the BoP time to destroy the Farragut and hammer the Enterprise.
Go back and watch BoT again, the same thing happens.
There's a moment of hesitation on Kirk's part as well there, because it takes a moment for him to realize that the Romulan Commander out smarted him and tell Sulu to alter course.

That time though the Romulan ship didn't turn back immediately and fire because the Enterprise wasn't as conveniently close as the Farragut was.
That also gave Kirk the time to lay down a spread of phaser fire from the Enterprise before the Plasma Bolt was fired.
 
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Go back and watch BoT again, the same thing happens.
There's a moment of hesitation on Kirk's part as well there, because it takes a moment for him to realize that the Romulan Commander out smarted him and tell Sulu to alter course.
Oh, trust me, I've seen Balance of Terror many times. Kirk waits only a second and then realizes what happens. He makes adjustments and hammers the BoP. His reaction is much faster.

Conversely, Pike waits longer and has to be told by Kirk, confirmed by Spock, before he does anything.
 
Nope. After the Enterprise came out of the comet, there was a palpable hesitation. Kirk had to call the Enterprise and tell them that the BoP was not where it should be. Spock concurred. That delay gave the BoP time to destroy the Farragut and hammer the Enterprise.

That's not what happened. See dialogue and event below (or just watch it again).

Kirk ignored Pike and looped to attack instead of getting out of there. During the Farragut's looping maneuver Kirk never fired a single shot until he had his ventral phasers bearing which took 16 seconds to happen. That delay cost him the Farragut as it allowed the Romulan to charge up and fire it's plasma bolt. Pike was already out of position and closing and he is out of firing range when Kirk requests for Pike to fire. Mitchell thinks their phaser hit was sheer luck. So I disagree that Pike did anything wrong.

KIRK: Something isn't right.
SPOCK: The captain is correct. We should be seeing them by now.
KIRK: Enterprise, I don't like this.
SPOCK: Reading gravitational signature again. It's behind the Farragut.
PIKE: Kirk! Get out of there! Red Alert!
KIRK: Red Alert!
PIKE: Erica close that distance as fast as you can.
KIRK: Attack pattern Tiberius 4.
KIRK: Get behind them. (They don't get behind them)
(16 seconds transpire between "Attack pattern Tiberius 4" to "Fire!")
KIRK: Fire!
KIRK: Fire phasers, Captain.
PIKE: We're out of range. We're just as likely to hit you as them.
KIRK: Maybe you'll draw their fire.
PIKE: MItchell, full phasers, now.
MITCHELL: Holy... We actually clipped them.
PIKE: Nice shooting, Jenna.

Meanwhile, in Balance of Power, Kirk reacted quickly after exiting the comet and pounded the Bird of Prey. I believe it was at this point when the Romulan Commander referred to Kirk as a sorcerer.

In "Balance of Terror" TOS-Kirk's Enterprise is in the same general position that SNW-Pike's Enterprise is which is on the other side of the comet. TOS-Kirk laid down a pattern of fire blanketing where they thought the Romulan would be. If SNW-Kirk listened to Pike, he could've got out of the trap zone and lead the Romulan to Pike so they could team up and attack.

The "Sorcerer" comment is from later on where the TOS-Enterprise and Romulan Bird-of-Prey play the silent game for 9 straight hours and Spock accidentally gives away their position. Kirk orders the Enterprise to reverse course to give some distance and then fires on the Bird of Prey's general area preventing them from sneaking closer to fire their plasma bolt.

Going into the same comet situation with two ships instead of one should've given Pike and Kirk together an advantage over Kirk going it alone.

The pair should've had an advantage but Kirk wasn't working with Pike. SNW-Kirk became Pike's liability, IMHO.

Yeah, but in Kirk's timeline that didn't happen because Kirk didn't try to negotiate a cease fire.

There was a block of time of about 9 Hours where TOS-Enterprise and TOS-Romulan were stopped silent. It would've been interesting if the Romulan secretly called for reinforcements.
 
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