Yeah, just not a very satisfying one, IMO. Then again, this IS the same Starfleet that had to have a debate about the rights of Soong-type androids TWICE in TNG, tried automated starships TWICE, and incorporated Borg tech into its ships (bonus stupidity points for the OIC being someone who started her career as an anti-Borg expert).
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Maybe the AGT-style combadges have some extra advanced features that the post-GEN ones lack that made them far more difficult to produce in mass quantities? Especially if based on technology brought back by Voyager.
My fear with most of season 2 was they might do some kind of a massive reset button where the kids kept all their memories, but the rest of the universe was reset to STLD + PICARD's 2380s once all the temporal paradoxes resolved themselves. Those AGT combadges have always screamed alt future after all. Instead it seems they came "too early", leading to the badges seen in the "present day" portions of PICARD.
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Yes, you could maybe imagine that someone had a good look at the Doctor's 29th century holoemitter and got a a few ideas above their century. It's certainly possible.
I now have a pet theory that the Picard S1 badges were made of a more cost-effective material due to these shortages, hence the black, but later replaced with the traditional gold by 2402. Starfleet probably would've stuck with the AGT badge way into 25th century had it not been for the attack on Mars.
They can try and aim Starfleet Academy at teen audiences all they want. But the majority watching it won't be teens, it will be the tiny subset of Star Trek fans that liked Discovery.
Also, you should be aware that network executives are proven to think like that.
Indeed, yes. The goal and direction of this show is far different than Prodigy.
I welcome an Academy series because as a teen I wanted to go to Starfleet Academy.
If it appeals to older demographic person, like me (horrible, I know!) it will also appeal to younger me.
This did make me wonder if maybe they'll use the ending as a model for Starfleet Academy's story structure?
A group of cadets given a starship and field commissions as part of an exploratory mission overseen by a senior officer, with Holly Hunter's character being the equivalent of Janeway. And every so often they check in with her and Starfleet Academy, but the rest of the time it's the usual startship, mission-of-the-week, episodic structure of Star Trek that might build to an overarching plot for the season.
A group of cadets given a starship and field commissions as part of an exploratory mission overseen by a senior officer, with Holly Hunter's character being the equivalent of Janeway. And every so often they check in with her and Starfleet Academy, but the rest of the time it's the usual startship, mission-of-the-week, episodic structure of Star Trek that might build to an overarching plot for the season.
I was concerned when they brought up the Mars synth attack in this episode. I really didn't want Prodigy getting caught up in Picard season 1 business. But then! They got their own ship! The Prodigy gets to go off and keep the true spirit of Star Trek alive, even as the rest of Starfleet declines. Brilliant ending.
It was a funny line to fix a PIC S1 mistake. Just like them saying that the uniforms look similar to the AGT/Visitor/Endgame ones because old Janeway gave them the designs
...like when did she have the time, and why?? "I need you to fly through the transwarp hub, here are cheat codes from the future, oh and btw here's my uniform design!" 
This was such a good series. The finale was great, I loved Dal placing the commbadge for Rok to find, even though I guessed it as soon as Gwyn mentioned him wearing the old one.
Saving HoloJaneway was maybe a little cheesy, but it's forgiven. The Picard tie-ins were unexpected, really good for continuity nerds and a good enough explanation for getting the kids out in space for proper adventures.
Starfleet hasn't got the budget for new commbadges but they have an infinite supply of new uniform designs
Saving HoloJaneway was maybe a little cheesy, but it's forgiven. The Picard tie-ins were unexpected, really good for continuity nerds and a good enough explanation for getting the kids out in space for proper adventures.
Starfleet hasn't got the budget for new commbadges but they have an infinite supply of new uniform designs
One probably uses exotic materials.Starfleet hasn't got the budget for new commbadges but they have an infinite supply of new uniform designs
Also, their fashion design department has a new class every year.
We already saw in LDS (and PRO itself) that different badges and uniforms are used in parallel, and they aren't standardized fleet-wide. The idea that they're functionally different, and that the AGT-style might've had some kind of specialized or exotic material or component (transtators!) that was in short supply after Mars was attacked and meant they had to be recalled for the rebuilding effort makes sense.
I don't think so, with the rumors about the giant Academy set they're building.
Eh? Pic Season 1 didn't make the a mistake, it was Prodigy. They were using the wrong combadges.
It was a funny line to fix a PIC S1 mistake. Just like them saying that the uniforms look similar to the AGT/Visitor/Endgame ones because old Janeway gave them the designs
I sincerely doubt that the events of Endgame (or at least those when Admiral Janeway was on board) took place in real time.
Captain Janeway mentioned in her log that it was eerie looking at her older self briefing her officers on technology that hadn't been invented yet.
So, I would surmise that Admiral Janeway had more than enough time to show them the ins and outs of future technology, uniforms, etc.
In fact, the admiral didn't even have to tell them specifically. The internal sensors would have recorded admiral Janeway on VOY at the time and would have been able to recreate the uniform accurately.
Same goes for most of the tech she brought back.
Plus, we don't know if admiral Janeway gave all information and technology she brought back in her shuttle to VOY crew.
I would surmise that with the possibility of their risky plan backfiring, the Borg would have had access to all advanced future tech (this way, they only assimilated the Armour technology)... so in all probability, Admiral Janeway DID likely upload a copy of her shuttle's database because she knew SF would keep it safe and possibly make use of it.
But I have to agree that it was done mostly to fix PIC S1 mess of storytelling mostly.
Clearly uniforms are from Primark whereas you need to get commbadges from Rolex - simply a budget issueThis was such a good series. The finale was great, I loved Dal placing the commbadge for Rok to find, even though I guessed it as soon as Gwyn mentioned him wearing the old one.
Saving HoloJaneway was maybe a little cheesy, but it's forgiven. The Picard tie-ins were unexpected, really good for continuity nerds and a good enough explanation for getting the kids out in space for proper adventures.
Starfleet hasn't got the budget for new commbadges but they have an infinite supply of new uniform designs
With this commbadge thing - and yes I could just rewatch and pay extra close attention - can anyone shed some light on it as I have watched it twice and didn't notice anything about scarcity of them
Apologies if it was super obvious
Most people were wearing the VOY combadge not the All Good Things one.
Janeway's final log references a deleted scene from Nemesis
Janeway’s Final Admiral's Log Is A Deep Cut Star Trek: Nemesis Easter Egg
Janeway has heard Picard's speech before.
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So a little off topic but since the episode deals with the attack on mars it makes me wonder if the enterprise-E was at UTP for repairs cause according to the Star Trek Picard instagram logs released last year they said that the enterprise-F was launched in 2386 a year after the attack on mars and it makes wonder was the E-F already constructed prior to the attack and if so were the planning on decommissioning the E-E since it apparently got affected by the living construct?
I felt this season went too fast and ended too soon, but that's because I watched the entire Season 2 on Netflix and the first one on Paramount Plus.
I really liked the finale and overall, the whole season. There were a lot of nods to ST Picard, especially the synth attacks on Mars, Starfleet scaling back its exploratory mission to focus on defense, and the iconic uniforms from Picard S1 (the flashback with Picard and Raffi).
The Prodigy team's mission has always been to restore the original timeline, or close to it. But wouldn't that mean:
I really liked the finale and overall, the whole season. There were a lot of nods to ST Picard, especially the synth attacks on Mars, Starfleet scaling back its exploratory mission to focus on defense, and the iconic uniforms from Picard S1 (the flashback with Picard and Raffi).
The Prodigy team's mission has always been to restore the original timeline, or close to it. But wouldn't that mean:
- Ilthuran would eventually become the Diviner and oversee the mines on Tars Lamora? Otherwise, Dal, Gwyn, and company would not have met.
- The young Ascensia would grow up vindictive and time-travel to avenge Solum for the collapse of its society?
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Interview with Will Wheaton.
Interesting that Wheaton says he's been having to keep the secret of Wesley returning for nearly four years, but I gathered he wasn't even referring to his appearance in season 2 of Picard.
I wonder how far ahead the Hagemans were planning out Prodigy's story arc?
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