Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 3x08 - "Crisis Point Ⅱ: Paradoxus"
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Nor should they.
Eaves isn’t a writer. That was just his own head canon and personal reasoning behind certain design choices he put into the ship, they weren’t requests from up high saying there was going to be a refit, he was just operating in the mentality that it might happen.
Him and his co-designers also came up with the idea that the bridge window can become opaque in dangerous situations but that was never used as they’re not writers.
He explained that in his art book and in the Eaglemoss booklet for the ship.
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what does 'under the gun' mean?
and what are these mission details they shouldn't know but mentioned anyway?
(everything is well explained here btw https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Constitution_class_model_(retcon))
and what are these mission details they shouldn't know but mentioned anyway?
(everything is well explained here btw https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Constitution_class_model_(retcon))
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Of course it won't be. Paramount -- I know it's a bit hard to keep track sometimes, but CBS and Viacom have re-merged and are now operating under the name Paramount again -- does not and has never cared about visual continuity. But that doesn't preclude the producers of SNW from caring about visual continuity. Nor, for that matter, does caring about visual continuity preclude making the deliberate decision to break visual continuity sometimes.
Seen it twice now. It isn't Crisis Point, but you know, sequels, but I still really enjoyed it. Was exciting, poignant and funny. Not sure why but Rutherford's obsession with getting the punk's trousers made me giggle a lot. Also I think horsey is going to bite you now is brilliant.
Nice Sulu cameo (and he sounded more like himself than many of the voice cameos have) and a neat reveal at the end.
Love Captain Tendi as well!
Nice Sulu cameo (and he sounded more like himself than many of the voice cameos have) and a neat reveal at the end.
Hopefully William is just under cover rather than he's gone bad but I wonder if he'll have to replace our Boimler at some point for a mission?
Love Captain Tendi as well!
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That’s great. It doesn’t change my opinion that the producers of SNW aren’t suddenly going to change all their sets, props, costumes, CGI models, etc. to mimic a show from the ‘60’s to please a small population of internet Uber-fans who think that this will make everything right with the world again for Star Trek continuity.
I don't think they'll change props or interior sets, but I also don't think those matter much continuity-wise. I could see SNW ending with Kirk and Spock warping off to their first adventure in a newly-refit Enterprise whose exterior looks like the TOS version though.
Then that would cause more of a continuity error than it would fix. The events of "The Cage" already happened, and the ship looked like it did in the TOS visuals. If they're truly wanting to follow visual continuity, then that would mean that the ship originally looked like it did in "The Cage," then was refit to the DSC version, then refit again to look like more or less how it looked in "The Cage." Not to mention that this would mean that now there would be this 'extra' refit (the Discoprise) that was never acknowledged or visualized in any past (or more accurately, future) Star Trek production.
No, neither CBS nor the SNW producers have any intention of reverting the visual continuity back to how it looked in TOS. If they did, they would have done it during preproduction of SNW. As it stands, the ship interiors, exteriors, uniforms, visuals, etc. look even less like TOS than they did in DSC. Oh, except for that nifty shuttlecraft. And the communicators. They are believable as something we might see in TOS.
The other animated Trek series currently in production have chosen to adhere to the visual continuity of TOS, while SNW has not. It's pretty much that simple.
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Yeah, there is that. I've just given up on the idea of preserving anything from "The Cage" that conflicts with episodes/films set later on. There's so much worldbuilding in "The Cage" that's already been contradicted -- the idea of the "time barrier" being broken, the idea that women serving in the space service is a new development, the idea that the Enterprise is an Earth ship rather than a Federation ship, the idea that Starfleet used lasers rather than phasers, the idea that Spock openly shows emotions, the idea that Earth is at the other end of the galaxy from Talos IV, the idea that the Enterprise would use rockets. So I've basically just written off "The Cage" when it comes to things like this. I'm fine just pretending the Enterprise is in its SNW configuration when I watch it.
could you tell us those additional mission details they're not supposed to know but do know anyway...
I’m just repeating what had been said by Eaves and his co-designers in the Eaglemoss booklet for the Enterprise and Eaves in his own art book.
No one told them the Enterprise was going to eventually turn into the TOS design, Eaves assumed that on his own. The same way you seem to think it will.
Anyways this is completely off topic from the episode.
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I gave it a ten, just for Sulu alone. The rest was incredible.
? V'ger did make sense. It was a probe sent to study and learn. Aliens helped it maximize its potential. The sci-fi element isn't only the alien aspect but the broader philosophical question about what learning means. About sentience being an emergent phenomenon. It was really far out, but it made sense.
K ty Ha is a joke not only for referencing TMP (arguably the most Lower Decks of TOS movies), but because of the absurdity that the Wright Flyer 1) is in space at all, and especially 2) a gliding machine would be evolved into something intelligent. They have nothing in common except the gravity defiance. But it might as well have been a paper airplane made from a kid's spiral notebook it was so silly. I gotta say it actually lost me, but eh, I'll live.
K ty Ha is a joke not only for referencing TMP (arguably the most Lower Decks of TOS movies), but because of the absurdity that the Wright Flyer 1) is in space at all, and especially 2) a gliding machine would be evolved into something intelligent. They have nothing in common except the gravity defiance. But it might as well have been a paper airplane made from a kid's spiral notebook it was so silly. I gotta say it actually lost me, but eh, I'll live.
Although, V'Ger has knowledge which spans the universe, but can't figure out how to wipe dirt off its own nameplate?
You think it was there because it didn’t think to do that?
It had become one with the dirt.
Well, Boimler DID complain that it made no sense. Even today AI-generated stories can be fascinating but easily end with stuff that has no meaning whatsoever.
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