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Star Trek Enterprise Season 5's Mirror Universe Plan Explained

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Sorry, but this doesn’t tell me anything new.

I was expecting more detailed plans along the lines of “Empress Sato and her personal bodyguard Mayweather are busy fending off potential rivals to the Terran throne in Samuels and Paxton…Archer spends years in a secret Terran detention facility with no signs of it ending…T’Pol - having faked her execution - has make her way to the peaceful and friendly world of Romulus to warn the Praetor of a pending Terran invasion led by the Reed-commanded Defiant…Trip - having cured his delta radiation due to info on the Defiant database - tortures Phlox in the agonizer booth on a daily basis” in terms of plans being revealed. Various Trek novels have interesting ideas themselves involving Shran being Sato's consort, and Sato being cloned to create a Sato dynasty.

I can’t say that an entire season in the mirror universe would have been a bad thing for ENT. It would have been a radical change in direction for the series and I don’t think anyone would have missed the Faith of the Heart intro.
 
After reading what was written in that link by screenrant; it's hard for me to believe these showrunners would do all of that. If so, sadly these guys just didn't know what they had in that very talented cast. Piling on more gimmicks would not have been the answer but telling stories those characters and actors could explore would be something I'd wished to see. I don't care about more Mirror Universe jargon or Romulan Wars or T'Pol revealed to being a fake or the origin of the Borg Queen because it doesn't help propel the characters of ENT.

Why would the showrunners want this and why would the fans who claimed to love ENT would want to see more stories about things which would only turns avenues for the viewer to watch other Trek projects, TOS, ST: First Contact, & DS9 other than ENT??? Seeing the Xindi along with Future Guy seem to be an avenue where the showrunners should go because it's their creation another aspect I would touch is whether or not Riker's holodeck episode was actually true and did Trip die? I thought ENT was better when it's not tripping over the things done better on TOS, and TNG, including movies.
 
After reading what was written in that link by screenrant; it's hard for me to believe these showrunners would do all of that. If so, sadly these guys just didn't know what they had in that very talented cast. Piling on more gimmicks would not have been the answer but telling stories those characters and actors could explore would be something I'd wished to see. I don't care about more Mirror Universe jargon or Romulan Wars or T'Pol revealed to being a fake or the origin of the Borg Queen because it doesn't help propel the characters of ENT.

Why would the showrunners want this and why would the fans who claimed to love ENT would want to see more stories about things which would only turns avenues for the viewer to watch other Trek projects, TOS, ST: First Contact, & DS9 other than ENT??? Seeing the Xindi along with Future Guy seem to be an avenue where the showrunners should go because it's their creation

That’s the issue isn’t it? The cast is good, but the writers didn’t know what to do with them. And then they were further hamstrung as:

- They were given a very small window to build to the Romulan War & the founding of the Federation (5-10 years), and to flesh out the early days of exploration too. Even the Star Wars prequels were set 30-40 years before the original trilogy to explain the rise of the Galactic Empire and the fall of the Jedi.

- Archer’s future was preordained due to the TCW. Therefore, taking away any drama surrounding him. The same thing ended up happening to Sato due to the mirror universe episodes.

- The TCW was rejected by fans, even though - arguably - the series might have been better off leaning in that direction more, as the origins of the first Starfleet timeship.

Granted, both Montgomery and Park caught on that they would not be prominent characters on ENT. But if they aren’t going to be prominent, then why not make them redshirts or not a part of the main cast anymore?

The real answer as to what ENT’s S5 should really have been like is in the middle; between the mirror universe and the building to/ the events of the Romulan War. With each of the main characters having their own arcs, and them showing a bit of their mirror universe counterparts over the season:

  • Archer growing paranoid about his position as captain due to regular clashes with Admiral Gardner and the rest of Starfleet brass over the militant direction Starfleet is taking, contemplates replacing Porthos with a meaner dog, all while a past life in Terra Prime comes to light.
  • Trip becomes less friendly after an injury in engineering disfigures him, and actually considers at one point to build an agony booth on the ship.
  • T’Pol adopts the Starfleet uniform and grows her hair out longer to look more human, all while starting to see emotion as a weakness. She actively works to grow the Coalition of Planets with Andorian liaison Shran, and considers a munity against Archer as she sides with Starfleet brass, even though the teachings of the Kir’Shara suggests she avoids violence altogether.
  • Reed takes interest in leading the MACOs after not being satisfied with Major Hayes’ replacement
  • Phlox leans more into a mad scientist, starting with Frankenstein type projects, but eventually going beyond that
  • Sato becomes slightly aggressive, more promiscuous, and becomes remarkably adept at dealing with United Earth politics and Starfleet politics over the season
  • Mayweather wants to move on being a helmsman and either becomes a MACO or becomes a tactical officer, and engages in political intrigue more from a space boomer perspective.
  • Even Enterprise itself should have just dropped the phase cannons and gone with lasers and EM plasma cannons as a part of the NX-refit, and start bringing it in line with the technology of “The Cage”.

And the build to the Romulan War is a factor in these changes in behaviour. As this is the second time within five years that Earth’s mission of peaceful exploration is being challenged and threatened by interstellar conflict, and its starting to break them and threaten their values.

Now, if we are forced to choose a direction, then a season in the mirror universe would be the better direction. As it would have fit the climate of the ‘00s more, and Star Trek already did a war story with the Dominion War. Unless the writers find a way to may the Romulan War feel different from the Dominion War.

another aspect I would touch is whether or not Riker's holodeck episode was actually true and did Trip die?

Or Admiral Janeway travels back in time and erases Trip’s death from history and then we can all forget the whole thing.
 
The only new info to me here was that T'pol's father was a Romulan making her half Romulan and explaining her emotional tendencies. That would have been interesting.
 
After reading what was written in that link by screenrant; it's hard for me to believe these showrunners would do all of that. If so, sadly these guys just didn't know what they had in that very talented cast. Piling on more gimmicks would not have been the answer but telling stories those characters and actors could explore would be something I'd wished to see. I don't care about more Mirror Universe jargon or Romulan Wars or T'Pol revealed to being a fake or the origin of the Borg Queen because it doesn't help propel the characters of ENT.

Why would the showrunners want this and why would the fans who claimed to love ENT would want to see more stories about things which would only turns avenues for the viewer to watch other Trek projects, TOS, ST: First Contact, & DS9 other than ENT??? Seeing the Xindi along with Future Guy seem to be an avenue where the showrunners should go because it's their creation another aspect I would touch is whether or not Riker's holodeck episode was actually true and did Trip die? I thought ENT was better when it's not tripping over the things done better on TOS, and TNG, including movies.
I agree mostly with this.
I think ENT really could and should have built towards TOS - playing in Orions, the Gorn, and a proposed Season 5 trip to the Cloud City in Ardana really helped cement its unique position in the Trek canon - as the building blocks to what we knew. Not to forgot of course the Andorians - and absolute powerhouse of the show.

The Borg episode was a surprising hit (because it could have gone so badly wrong) and using aliens like the Nausicaans was a smart tie into everything without having to make direct references.

Some of it was gratuitous though - the Ferengi were a dumb misstep and nobody needed Section 31 to turn up.

Enterprise had so many of its own great stories to tell, and there was definitely a necessity to weave some of the canon in - but a whole season of the Mirror universe was something nobody needed and would have been utter fan service at the expense of developing a great show further.
 
Literally nothing new here, but I get it. Gotta make rent.

I wrote an article the other day for a certain website ranking Star Trek's top 10 time travel stories (IMO). I doubt I'll ever link it here on TrekBBS. It says absolutely nothing new about any of the episodes I included; it merely says them in my own words and based upon my own feelings.

I did it to make money. I'm sure it's the same sitch here -- I just wish the article didn't make it sound like something new cropped up when it didn't. :weep:
 
Literally nothing new here, but I get it. Gotta make rent.

I wrote an article the other day for a certain website ranking Star Trek's top 10 time travel stories (IMO). I doubt I'll ever link it here on TrekBBS. It says absolutely nothing new about any of the episodes I included; it merely says them in my own words and based upon my own feelings.

I did it to make money. I'm sure it's the same sitch here -- I just wish the article didn't make it sound like something new cropped up when it didn't. :weep:
Clickbait, innit?

There's one site that's reported a revival of practically every old show as "insider scoop" "news".
 
I agree mostly with this.
I think ENT really could and should have built towards TOS - playing in Orions, the Gorn, and a proposed Season 5 trip to the Cloud City in Ardana really helped cement its unique position in the Trek canon - as the building blocks to what we knew. Not to forgot of course the Andorians - and absolute powerhouse of the show.

The Borg episode was a surprising hit (because it could have gone so badly wrong) and using aliens like the Nausicaans was a smart tie into everything without having to make direct references.

Some of it was gratuitous though - the Ferengi were a dumb misstep and nobody needed Section 31 to turn up.

Enterprise had so many of its own great stories to tell, and there was definitely a necessity to weave some of the canon in - but a whole season of the Mirror universe was something nobody needed and would have been utter fan service at the expense of developing a great show further.
I agree, I don't think an entire season in the mirror universe, at the expense of the Romulan War would be a good idea. However, another two parter showing what happened after the Defiant got to Earth would be welcome.
 
@James Carter, as you know from the board rules, threads that have been left fallow for over a year are best left to rest in peace. If you wish to continue this topic, you can start a new thread, and link to this old version if you need context for your fresh conversation. Thanks.

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