I have no idea what you're talking about and am perfectly content to remain that way. 
Smash.
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There was an episode of Medium, where everywhere Medium looked, she saw a series of 4 digit numbers hovering above everyones heads. This was odd Medium thought. Then she saw a friend who had a single digit in place where every one else had 4, the numeral "1" in flashing emergency neon blinking above his head, whereafter Medium figured out that this strange "number", they used cgi of course, was how many/few days each and every person in her line of sight had till they died.
Cool?
Now imagine if instead of the number of days these poor bastards naked to fate had to live was on display above their heads like a cartoon thought bubble, it was instead the number of shots any which one you might run arye of had to drink before they would perform a homosexual act.
Most useless superpower ever?
It's right up there with Ferro-Lad from the Legion of Substitute Heroes.
Cool?
Now imagine if instead of the number of days these poor bastards naked to fate had to live was on display above their heads like a cartoon thought bubble, it was instead the number of shots any which one you might run arye of had to drink before they would perform a homosexual act.
Most useless superpower ever?
It's right up there with Ferro-Lad from the Legion of Substitute Heroes.
I'm pretty sure if you translated that into Klingon, I'd understand it better.
pa' ghaHta' [an] [episode] vo' [Medium] nuqDaq [everywhere] [Medium] nejta' ghaH leghta' [a] [series] vo' [digit] [numbers] [hovering] Dung [everyones] nachDu' vam ghaHta' [odd] [Medium] [thought] vaj ghaH leghta' [a] jup 'Iv ghajta' [a] [single] [digit] Daq Daq nuqDaq Hoch wa' [else] ghajta' [the] [numeral] Daq [flashing] [emergency] [neon] [blinking] Dung Daj nach [whereafter] [Medium] [figured] pa' vetlh vam [strange] mI' chaH [used] [cgi] vo' [course] ghaHta' chay' law' [few] jajmey [each] 'ej Hoch [person] Daq Daj tlhegh vo' leghpu' ghajta' [till] chaH Heghta'
[cool]
DaH [imagine] chugh [instead] vo' [the] mI' vo' jajmey Dochvammey mIpHa' [bastards] [naked] Daq [fate] ghajta' Daq yIn ghaHta' Daq [display] Dung chaj nachDu' rur [a] [cartoon] [thought] [bubble] 'oH ghaHta' [instead] [the] mI' vo' [shots] vay' nuq wa' SoH [might] [run] [arye] vo' ghajta' Daq tlhutlh qaSpa' chaH [would] [perform] [a] [homosexual] vang
HochHom lI'be' [superpower] [ever]
[It's] nIH Dung pa' tlhej [Ferro-Lad] vo' [the] [Legion] vo' [Substitute] [Heroes]
[cool]
DaH [imagine] chugh [instead] vo' [the] mI' vo' jajmey Dochvammey mIpHa' [bastards] [naked] Daq [fate] ghajta' Daq yIn ghaHta' Daq [display] Dung chaj nachDu' rur [a] [cartoon] [thought] [bubble] 'oH ghaHta' [instead] [the] mI' vo' [shots] vay' nuq wa' SoH [might] [run] [arye] vo' ghajta' Daq tlhutlh qaSpa' chaH [would] [perform] [a] [homosexual] vang
HochHom lI'be' [superpower] [ever]
[It's] nIH Dung pa' tlhej [Ferro-Lad] vo' [the] [Legion] vo' [Substitute] [Heroes]
You're kidding me.
There's no Klingon word for "bastards"?
There's no Klingon word for "bastards"?
There are no Klingon bastards.
After sex, they either take the Oath, or one of them gets murdered.
If the guy is dead, the woman can 'say" that he said the oath and then accidentally fell on his mekleth. If on the other hand, the girl dies. Well dead girl means dead baby. Problem solved.
Positive examplem facto.
No Klingon bastards.
After sex, they either take the Oath, or one of them gets murdered.
If the guy is dead, the woman can 'say" that he said the oath and then accidentally fell on his mekleth. If on the other hand, the girl dies. Well dead girl means dead baby. Problem solved.
Positive examplem facto.
No Klingon bastards.
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The alternate version of STIII: The Search for Spock:
"Klingon bastard, you killed my son!"
"Actually, Admiral, we don't have bastards."
"... Okay, wait a minute. First it was this whole 'We have no devil' business, but what the hell do you call Fek'lar?"
"Well, uh, he kinda, y'know, guards the dishonored dead. Right, guys?"
"And that's different from our devil...how?"
"Klingon bastard, you killed my son!"
"Actually, Admiral, we don't have bastards."
"... Okay, wait a minute. First it was this whole 'We have no devil' business, but what the hell do you call Fek'lar?"
"Well, uh, he kinda, y'know, guards the dishonored dead. Right, guys?"
"And that's different from our devil...how?"
The devil isn't dishonorable.
He is a trade unionist and civil rights advocate in the least, and a(n equally failed) Spartacus like emancipator of an entire species subjugated and enslaved by a thoughtless tyrant at most
He is a trade unionist and civil rights advocate in the least, and a(n equally failed) Spartacus like emancipator of an entire species subjugated and enslaved by a thoughtless tyrant at most
At least the whole boring "affair" plotline seems to be done with now. I'm looking forward to next season already when a new showrunner can do something about salvaging this mess.
Bombshell is a terrible name for a Broadway play, if for no other reason than it has "bomb" in the title. Why make the critics' jobs that easy?
If NBC is really serious about producing the musical on Broadway, betcha they call it Marilyn. Not creative, but it has the advantage of succinctly telling people what the frak it's about. Confused people don't buy tickets.
Bombshell is a terrible name for a Broadway play, if for no other reason than it has "bomb" in the title. Why make the critics' jobs that easy?
If NBC is really serious about producing the musical on Broadway, betcha they call it Marilyn. Not creative, but it has the advantage of succinctly telling people what the frak it's about. Confused people don't buy tickets.
"Bombshell Bombs!"
I mean that headline is so damn obvious that it's a no brainer to avoid.
I liked the singing out side.
The add for the finder in the back ground was funny.
I mean that headline is so damn obvious that it's a no brainer to avoid.
I liked the singing out side.
The add for the finder in the back ground was funny.
The Vulture's reviews have become the main reason I'm sticking with the show.
I like the suggestion for Unfrozen Caveman Husband to marry Anjelica Houston. But it's such a waste for the gay Republican character to be a boring and basically sane Wall Street type. Why can't he be a closeted Rick Santorum style lunatic instead, with a wife and 25 kids as cover? Imagine the hot sex Tom could have with Senator Santorum (you don't even need google) in his ongoing quest to drive the memory of Derek's hot, tasty lips from his fevered brain...
I like the suggestion for Unfrozen Caveman Husband to marry Anjelica Houston. But it's such a waste for the gay Republican character to be a boring and basically sane Wall Street type. Why can't he be a closeted Rick Santorum style lunatic instead, with a wife and 25 kids as cover? Imagine the hot sex Tom could have with Senator Santorum (you don't even need google) in his ongoing quest to drive the memory of Derek's hot, tasty lips from his fevered brain...
We've seen the straight people waking up, and going to sleep together... but have we seen any simulated heterosexual sex?
Then?
There's no orientational bias, Smash is just void of "all" sex.
Although, 'ave we even seen the gay folks kissing?
They cut away fom Ellis and that agent really quickly.
Ae the least they should have been shirtless and then like in a horror movie when the monster leaps on the virgin to eat her, it should have been exactly the same shot, may bullet timing Ellis' flight onto that other man's body.
This doesn't seem to be a show that wants to show us sex.
It just airs in the wrong hour of the day hen the wrong people are paying attention.
Then?
There's no orientational bias, Smash is just void of "all" sex.
Although, 'ave we even seen the gay folks kissing?
They cut away fom Ellis and that agent really quickly.
Ae the least they should have been shirtless and then like in a horror movie when the monster leaps on the virgin to eat her, it should have been exactly the same shot, may bullet timing Ellis' flight onto that other man's body.
This doesn't seem to be a show that wants to show us sex.
It just airs in the wrong hour of the day hen the wrong people are paying attention.
One of the other things that Smash could do a better job on are the musical productions. On Glee, the musical numbers pop -- on Smash they're pretty flat. One of the things that Glee does that makes the musical numbers so great is that more often than not, they use totally obscure or relatively obscure songs, sometimes by obscure artists and drop them into unusual situations in the show.
I know Smash has a problem that Glee doesn't, the show within the show requires original songs that relate to the musical, but the songs outside of the show can be anything. I liked the way "This is a Man's World" was used and I liked the arrangement. The use of the song even surprised me. That hadn't happened before and not since. The Glee presentation of "Rumor Has It", jumped off the screen, while Smash's use of the same song seemed entirely uninspired and unexciting. I did like the song, arrangement, and presentation of the song Karen and Ivy did on the street in the last episode, but again, it didn't send me to the internet to find out the identity of the song's writer or original performer. I've had to do this fairly often while watching Glee.
The "Marilyn" songs have only been passable to my ears, though I really do like the main theme (don't know it's title, but we hear snippets of it every week in the background). But pretty much none of the "Marilyn" songs have been special or outstanding. That shouldn't be.
I really think the difference is that the Glee production staff places a higher level of importance on the musical aspect of their show than the Smash producers do. That's too bad because Smash has some very talented performers. I hope the new showrunner fills some of the extra time made available by dropping some of the gossipy side stories with more music. I'm also hoping for better and more adventurous song choices.
I know Smash has a problem that Glee doesn't, the show within the show requires original songs that relate to the musical, but the songs outside of the show can be anything. I liked the way "This is a Man's World" was used and I liked the arrangement. The use of the song even surprised me. That hadn't happened before and not since. The Glee presentation of "Rumor Has It", jumped off the screen, while Smash's use of the same song seemed entirely uninspired and unexciting. I did like the song, arrangement, and presentation of the song Karen and Ivy did on the street in the last episode, but again, it didn't send me to the internet to find out the identity of the song's writer or original performer. I've had to do this fairly often while watching Glee.
The "Marilyn" songs have only been passable to my ears, though I really do like the main theme (don't know it's title, but we hear snippets of it every week in the background). But pretty much none of the "Marilyn" songs have been special or outstanding. That shouldn't be.
I really think the difference is that the Glee production staff places a higher level of importance on the musical aspect of their show than the Smash producers do. That's too bad because Smash has some very talented performers. I hope the new showrunner fills some of the extra time made available by dropping some of the gossipy side stories with more music. I'm also hoping for better and more adventurous song choices.
I think they should be a show about a musical, but not try to be a musical. The songs from the musical that they perform tend to be pretty good - I could see them being in a real musical. But when they try to do some pop song, ech. It usually doesn't work. Part of the reason is probably my general contempt for popular music. It all just sounds like junk to me.
We disagree. I think Smash isn't nearly musical enough. I want some of the angsty sidebar romances and such replaced with music, doesn't necessarily have to be pop music, although as long as they pick good songs, I'm all for that. But the way they have tended to botch their attempts at pop music is pretty much what my post was about. It doesn't have to be that way though -- if Glee can pull it off, I think Smash can too. However, it's going to take more musical creativity than what they've shown so far.
I feel like it's not following the FORM of a musical enough. Songs in musicals, generally, come out of moments where words aren't enough, the emotion is so great, blah blah blah, NOT because they are in a rehearsal or in a karaoke bar.
It's the thing I loathe about Glee. Well, one of the things.
That's a good point. Except for the songs from the actual musical, songs are just tossed into the mix because they need X number of songs per episode, not because it makes any damn sense in the story, or because the story demands a song right at that point.
It might be asking too much to have a sensibly constructed musical every week - the pace is probably just too much. It must take a lot of talent and effort to create original songs that sound good, and also emerge naturally from the narrative.
And if I wanted Glee, I would watch Glee. Which I don't. I hope they don't turn this show into that because that would be the end of me watching this show.
Anyway, it's obvious they gotta do something, and next fall, I expect there will be significant changes. I hope the changes are that they ditch pretty much everything other than the characters working on the musical because the parts that lag always seem to be the personal-story elements.
So they should have songs from the actual musical, and if they insist, songs about working on a musical. No more adoption or infidelity dramas, and Tom's boring boyfriend needs to get a lot more interesting, fast.
It might be asking too much to have a sensibly constructed musical every week - the pace is probably just too much. It must take a lot of talent and effort to create original songs that sound good, and also emerge naturally from the narrative.
And if I wanted Glee, I would watch Glee. Which I don't. I hope they don't turn this show into that because that would be the end of me watching this show.
Anyway, it's obvious they gotta do something, and next fall, I expect there will be significant changes. I hope the changes are that they ditch pretty much everything other than the characters working on the musical because the parts that lag always seem to be the personal-story elements.
So they should have songs from the actual musical, and if they insist, songs about working on a musical. No more adoption or infidelity dramas, and Tom's boring boyfriend needs to get a lot more interesting, fast.
Nobody saw this week's episode? I liked the introduction of the rock star character (Cobra?) and Tom's performance was fun, but once again, too much boring personal drama is dragging this show down.
I didn't buy Karen's sudden amazing transformation into the Platonic Ideal of Marilyn Monroe. All they did was slap a blonde wig on her head, have her talk in a baby voice and tell Jack Davenport to look like someone hit him upside the head with a two by four. Ivy's performance as Marilyn has been far more impressive, and Karen has a lot of ground to cover before I'll buy her instead.
But either would be vastly preferable to poor Uma Thurman who must be hurting for work now that she's gotten to old and ugly for movies.
She's completely the wrong physical type for Marilyn (if they wanted a washed up movie star for the role, Renne Zellwigger would have been a better choice) and is clearly being set up to be a trainwreck.
At least the boring Republican boyfriend seems to be gone, which simply makes me wonder why they bothered to create that character to begin with. Plotlines to nowhere is a bad sign in a show...
I didn't buy Karen's sudden amazing transformation into the Platonic Ideal of Marilyn Monroe. All they did was slap a blonde wig on her head, have her talk in a baby voice and tell Jack Davenport to look like someone hit him upside the head with a two by four. Ivy's performance as Marilyn has been far more impressive, and Karen has a lot of ground to cover before I'll buy her instead.
But either would be vastly preferable to poor Uma Thurman who must be hurting for work now that she's gotten to old and ugly for movies.
She's completely the wrong physical type for Marilyn (if they wanted a washed up movie star for the role, Renne Zellwigger would have been a better choice) and is clearly being set up to be a trainwreck.At least the boring Republican boyfriend seems to be gone, which simply makes me wonder why they bothered to create that character to begin with. Plotlines to nowhere is a bad sign in a show...
Uma has been ugly for years and plodding along fine.
Actually, Smash is more like Glee - with the annoying relationship storylines - than not, except Smash lacks the one thing that makes Glee watchable; the great musical presentations.That's a good point. Except for the songs from the actual musical, songs are just tossed into the mix because they need X number of songs per episode, not because it makes any damn sense in the story, or because the story demands a song right at that point.
It might be asking too much to have a sensibly constructed musical every week - the pace is probably just too much. It must take a lot of talent and effort to create original songs that sound good, and also emerge naturally from the narrative.
And if I wanted Glee, I would watch Glee. Which I don't. I hope they don't turn this show into that because that would be the end of me watching this show.
Anyway, it's obvious they gotta do something, and next fall, I expect there will be significant changes. I hope the changes are that they ditch pretty much everything other than the characters working on the musical because the parts that lag always seem to be the personal-story elements.
So they should have songs from the actual musical, and if they insist, songs about working on a musical. No more adoption or infidelity dramas, and Tom's boring boyfriend needs to get a lot more interesting, fast.
And I'm not saying I want Smash to turn into Glee, as stated, it's already too much like Glee in certain areas. What I'm saying is that Smash needs to greatly improve it's musical presentation. That is the thing that has made Glee something special and one of the things that is keeping Smash from really soaring.
BTW, I don't necessarily want to see Smash presented as a musical, although that wouldn't bother me, as long as the musical presentations - the real show and the 'show within the show' - are greatly improved.
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