I admit I didn't read Plastic Man, but Shazam and Superman immediately after crisis had a few dark stories...
Shazam!
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Barney the dinosaur can have a dark story if a writer chose to do that. That's not the norm nor should it be, even if the original generation that embraced these characters in their youth is all grown up and expecting the characters they loved to grow up with them. That's frankly a bit selfish.
Taking my nephews to these movies and showing them what I love is a great joy. Some characters should be for everybody. And I applaud that is all.
I've gone ahead and made a grading and discussion thread for those who have seen the movie already.
Kindly keep this thread spoiler free.
Kindly keep this thread spoiler free.
Going on Wednesday. Taking my eldest daughter - this is the first ever superhero movie she’s wanted to go and see (belated high five).
She has a skirt. They were pretty accurate to her comic look.
We went to the first showing today and there were maybe six or seven people in (and four were our little group). Perhaps the later showings were busier (Though it does also have competition from at least two other multiplex cinemas within five or so miles) 
How does the 1 day sneak peak a few weeks back work into this? It was a Saturday and the theatre I went to was completely filled. Most of those people probably won't be seeing it this weekend I'd imagine.
After reading this I am very confused. I stopped reading DC just after COIE and took a break for twenty years because I didn't like what DC had done to my beloved characters. I didn't know that the current version of Captain Marvel has actually been around since post-Crisis.
https://www.cbr.com/shazam-billy-batson-same-person-debut/
Are you arguing against the late 80's version of Captain Marvel that seems to have dismantled everything that came before it--or are you just against Johns' version? Because to me they both seem to be in defiance of the original Captain Marvel character.
The Captain Marvel of Post COIE was nothing like the current Geoff Johns version. The current character named Shazam debuted in 2011, and his backstory, personality and supporting cast are completely different. That CBR article is about how the golden age Captain Marvel used to be portrayed as having a different personality/mind to hm, separate from billy Batson, but that isn't relevant.
The biggest difference between pre and post COIE Captain Marvel is honestly the depth of the character and his stories. Regardless of what some Shazam fanatics think, post COIE Billy Batson had a lot of depth and nuance to his character, he just did it without being a generic angry teen. It also kept supposedly goofy stuff but did it really well (Mr. Tawny is an actual character still, for example). It even made the wizard Shazam more of a character then he has ever been in any other incarnation
There are basically four versions of Billy Batson/Captain Marvel in the comics. The golden Age version, the Pre COIE DC version, the Post COIE version, and the Geoff Johns version. They're all different, but the GA, Pre COIE and post COIE versions share similar "DNA", and they're the versions I really like. They keep a similar "spirit" of the character if that makes any sense. even though they have noticeable differences, they still feel like versions of the same character who has evolved over time, like most characters that started in the Golden Age and continued to the modern age.
I may enjoy the movie and its take on Shazam, but comic wise Shazam is always going to be inferior to Captain Marvel in every aspect of his character to me. I have mostly decided to refer to them as separate characters now. My favorite superhero of all time is the original Captain Marvel in general, with the post COIE version being my favorite version of my favorite hero. Shazam is a character I like in the movies and tolerate at best in the comics.
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