Possible, though I was thinking that since this is Section 31, they could know way more than everyone else.
Section 31 Star Map
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Possible, though I was thinking that since this is Section 31, they could know way more than everyone else.
Actually, that DMZ has been there since SNW 2nd to last episode.
One of the maps did have Bajor in SNW or DISCO.
While I don't have any issues with Starbases outside of Federation space, I do want to bring up something I just noticed on the map. In the episode's tag, Control asked the team if they had ever been to Turkana IV, implying that that would be the site of their next mission. However, the whole justification for the Section 31 unit is that they could only operate outside of Federation space, and not only is the Turkana system shown to be in Federation space, it's shown to be clear on the other side of Federation space by the Klingon Empire. Also, I see two Starbase 19s. Those are things that bother me more than the Starbases.
I wonder what Ferengi space is like. Their ships are as powerful as the federation’s but I never really thought about the kit territory. Generally I’ve thought of them as selling stuff in everyone else’s. But if it’s big, and they’re awful capitalists, it must be an oligarchic nightmare of lower naguses over prewarp indentured solar systems.
I think that's supposed to be Dreon, the destination for Kassidy Yates on most of her cargo runs in DS9.
There's also two Galen systems.
There isn't on the original base Starcharts map, I'm guessing someone just made a mistake.
I don't remember them saying they can only operate outside Federation space.
From Memory-Alpha
2330s, pretty close to when this movie takes place allegedly.
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Perhaps it's something I heard in an interview, then.
I missed that one.
What's annoying is that the movie takes place in the 2320's, and this starmap uses the Federation and Romulan symbols from TNG. So yet again, things specifically tied to the TNG era are lazily used retroactively in prequels instead of coming up with more period-specific or original ideas.
The TNG UFP emblem showed up in The Final Frontier, The Undiscovered Country and in Generation's prologue, so it was already in use before S31 takes place.
The TNG Romulan logo also appeared in The Final Frontier and The Undiscovered Country, so same there. Though the logo in TUC was completely green, not half green half blue like in TNG/DS9.
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None of that really changes my point. Actually, it makes it worse.
They would be contradicting continuity if they made another emblem.
It's not unrealistic for a political entity to not change their flag for decades or hundreds of years.
Look the American flag, yes the number of stars has changed but the basic design of the flag has been the same since the 1890s
France has been using the same flag for nearly 200 years.
I don't see the issue with the UFP flag already being ~77 years old when we first see it in TNG.
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Again, not my point. The only reason why TFF and TUC used those symbols was because TNG used them first. They didn’t bother to make new symbols to delineate a past era, because they weren’t thinking that progressively. Neither did the producers of S31. Do you really think Osunsanmi was like, ‘Oh, they used those symbols in TFF so we need to be consistent with continuity?’ No, he didn’t.
Why do you assume he made the decision on the graphics?
And they're using the correct Starfleet symbols we know they were using between the TOS movies and TNG, not ones from TNG or from TOS or other series (except for one shot which still had SNW symbols they apparently forgot to swap out)
Knowing who was on the art team of TUC at least, I don't think so. This is the era where they were very obsessive with those kinds of details making sense. Look at Mike Okuda trying to fix the registry number for the Yamato on TNG for example.
So if they decided to use the TNG logo in those movies doubt it was for laziness or anything else negative.
Edit: Well I'm wrong about the Starfleet Command symbol they used for Sol, that first appeared in DS9, it never appeared in the TOS movies. Since it used the TOS/Movie delta arrowhead I just assumed it first appeared in the movies.
But the symbol they used for Starbases and other installations is from the movies, it's on the uniform badge and belt buckles.
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Probably an art department call.
I just mentioned his name because other than Kurtzman, he’s the only other guy involved with producing this project whose name I knew.
They have people for that.
