Section 31 Star Map
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Apparently there's a DMZ on there that shouldn't be and for some reason, this matters.
Here’s a look at the starcharts as they are shown in the opening sequence of the movie, stitched together from a number of screenshots provided by @Jag2112 here …
I think they probably meant for the “Demilitarized Zone” on the map to be the one between Cardassian and Federation space. But there’s actually nothing prohibiting this from being any other demilitarized zone that existed at that time. Actually it would make more sense if it’s another demilitarized zone entirely, because as far as I’m aware the Badlands were actually located inside the zone, but this map draws them as separate entities.
I think they probably meant for the “Demilitarized Zone” on the map to be the one between Cardassian and Federation space. But there’s actually nothing prohibiting this from being any other demilitarized zone that existed at that time. Actually it would make more sense if it’s another demilitarized zone entirely, because as far as I’m aware the Badlands were actually located inside the zone, but this map draws them as separate entities.
There's more zoomed out version of the map showing the entire width of the federaion, but it's not really legible. Unless there's 4k version of the movie somewhere
The map is nearly identical to ones we've seen in SNW, just with symbols from that era replaced with ones from the late 23rd and early 24th Century. There's also no DMZ
Timothy Peel and his team did the graphics for SNW, S31 and Discovery so there is overlap.
The map is nearly identical to ones we've seen in SNW, just with symbols from that era replaced with ones from the late 23rd and early 24th Century. There's also no DMZ
Timothy Peel and his team did the graphics for SNW, S31 and Discovery so there is overlap.
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I liked seeing Fesarius, Izar and Gideon on there, but there are starbases located outside Federation space?
That was the first thing I caught when I saw it in the film. That's sloppy attention to detail.
...among a lot of things that showed sloppy attention to detail!
At least the movie committed to being consistently inconsistent!
Deep Space 9 was a Federation star base located outside of Federation space, so that's hardly outrageous or unprecedented. Not going to condemn it here when Star Trek has done it before. It's just not a thing.
DS9 was originally a Cardassian station, wasn't it? The map above is naming them as "Starbase", a nomenclature generally used by Starfleet (as well as using Starfleet emblems to denote them).Deep Space 9 was a Federation star base located outside of Federation space, so that's hardly outrageous or unprecedented. Not going to condemn it here when Star Trek has done it before. It's just not a thing.
DS9 was referred to as "Starbase Deep Space nine" more than once on the show. And why shouldn't the Federation have bases outside its borders? The United States has bases outside of its borders and so do other countries.
Careful. You know it's considered "lazy" to compare Starfleet to the US military, despite the fact the show makes them virtually indistinguishable anyway.
You're right. Let's call those star bases the equivalent of "embassies" instead.
It's a 2D map of 3D space, so there can be bases above and below the border.
I was just looking at it last night, I'm part way through the movie. This is probably the most detailed canon map we've seen, even more than the SNW map. I know the 2D effect makes a difference, but aside from that here are things that stand out:
-"Fesarius" exists, but in Ferengi space?
-Ferengi space in general seems bigger than the Cardassians
-Free Haven is in Tzenkethi space
-There's something next to the Tzenkethi, with a planet called "Orean" or something. Is that supposed to be the Orions?
Edit: Looking at the map here, it looks like that might just be the shaded boundaries of the Cardassians. I assume the Purple on the other side of the Ferengi are the Breen?
-"Fesarius" exists, but in Ferengi space?
-Ferengi space in general seems bigger than the Cardassians
-Free Haven is in Tzenkethi space
-There's something next to the Tzenkethi, with a planet called "Orean" or something. Is that supposed to be the Orions?
Edit: Looking at the map here, it looks like that might just be the shaded boundaries of the Cardassians. I assume the Purple on the other side of the Ferengi are the Breen?
They remembered to take Ferenginar off the map, because the Federation wasn't aware of the Ferengi at this point, so I guess that coloured area around their homeworld could mean anything.
