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Spoilers Picard Series Retrospective: the Good, the Bad and the Ugly

Let's remember that there are a lot of men who do dangerous jobs in the real world. It's not that all mothers of their (future) children run away in terror of what could happen.

And I would like to remind you for the umpteenth time that Beverly obviously had unprotected sex so a pregnancy was in the realm of possibilities. We are not talking about an inexperienced minor who still has to be told about bees and flowers. But a doctor who has already had a child.
She was also over 55 at the time. Even with 24th century science, if she wasn't trying to have a child, that might have reasonably come as a surprise.
 
She was also over 55 at the time. Even with 24th century science, if she wasn't trying to have a child, that might have reasonably come as a surprise.
Unless she was literally in menopause she could have had children. And I really find it hard to believe that with 24th century science she only realized she was pregnant after missing her period.

And by the way, you can already measure a person's fertility levels today. I imagine that with a tricorder it takes less than 10 seconds.
 
The most baffling thing to me is still the fact that Gates McFadden defended this whole trope wreck of a "I ran away with Jean-Luc's child and told no one for reasons that make no sense whatsoever" plot. Granted, she might have had to do so for promotional reasons, but come ON... it really did a disserve to her character. Crusher has never been a total fan favorite to begin with, granted, but this whole thing made her downright unlikeable.
It probably beat her roles in the TNG movies. At least in PIC S3, she’s central to the plot.

Beverly’s behaviour kind of makes sense, when considering Picard’s behaviour in the previous TNG movies.

- Goes Captain Ahab with the Borg, and could not be talked down by Beverly.

- High off of regenerative particles when he goes action hero on Ru’afo. Also, seeing as he planned to see Anij again during his shore leave, then that means he likely was on Ba’ku for a second time and continued to be affected by the regenerative particles.

- Probably still feeling the effects of those particles when he meet’s Shinzon, and continues to put his life at risk by being an action hero. And also told Troi to endure mind rape with no resistance from any of the crew, just to find the Scimitar.

Gives the sense that he’s becoming unhinged a bit. And not the calm, rational Picard of TNG. And so, she does not know what he’s going to do next. Him being promoted to admiral might have been necessary to protect himself as well as the crew and the ship, despite it being portrayed as leading an evacuation mission.

That would be legitimate grounds to keep Jack away.

The rest of Beverly’s friends seemed to be respecting her privacy.

It would have been so easy to just make Vash the mom. The kid could have been made a little older (being more in line with the actor's actual age) because who knows how/when/where Vash would have resurfaced AND Vash is the type who would never tell Jean-Luc that he has a child, etc etc.
Who's to say that Vash is even the same person from when she was last seen in TNG and DS9, even without experiencing motherhood? Everyone else seems to have changed. Plus, she''s been travelling the galaxy with Q, so there's even more changes to her personality to consider.
 
Season 2 of Picard is trying to prevent a 'xenophobic tyranny'.
We've got a young Guinan, Q, a Noonien Soong ancestor, 21st century U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), the Borg queen...I'm only on episode 5, 'Fly Me To the Moon'.
 
I wish the show had continued on course and not the season 3 we got. It was an insult to the series akin to TATV. All nostalgia and once the dopamine hit from the callbacks wore off all we have is a poor fanfiction full of contradictions, far worse logic gaps than suspension of disbelief can allow and a 10 hour backdoor pilot for a vanity project that was never in the cards. But wrap it in cameos and it is beloved. I want Matalas far away from Star Trek or at most a bit player with no real decision making power.
 
Good - all the new characters, especially Rios, Elnor, Raffi, Laris and Jurati. All the legacy characters especially Roe and Tuvok.
Bad - the death of Data. Again. (his death in Nemesis was fine for me)
the death and resurrection of Picard as a synth. But I guess making a top Starfleet admiral a synth helped Synth rights be enacted.
Hugh being redshirted
Vadic - total badass. total badass who had too many scenes.
Ugly - pretending Laris did not exist in the end. Having her in the shuttle with Picard and Crusher would have been a nice touch
Jack Crusher - I was hoping he would have been killed off to save the galaxy...oh well.
 
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Season 3 is more than glorified fanfiction and a TNG "movie" done right in long form, but it's still relatively sad that many of the characters, plot thread potentials, and premises laid down by Michael Chabon in the misunderstood Season 1 did not all carry over into Season 3 (with Season 2 an awkward buffer overall, but that too has some great stuff that gets slept on).
 
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Season 3 is more than glorified fanfiction and a TNG "movie" done right in long form, but it's still relatively sad that many of the characters, plot thread potentials, and premises laid down by Michael Chabon in the misunderstood Season 1 did not all carry over into Season 3 (with Season 2 an awkward buffer overall, but that too has some great stuff that gets slept on).

The "powers that be" told Chabon to make it less like Star Trek, with minimum references and then two seasons later they did the opposite because the man in charge doesn't have a clue.

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Probably why we got this.
 
Season 3 is more than glorified fanfiction and a TNG "movie" done right in long form, but it's still relatively sad that many of the characters, plot thread potentials, and premises laid down by Michael Chabon in the misunderstood Season 1 did not all carry over into Season 3 (with Season 2 an awkward buffer overall, but that too has some great stuff that gets slept on).
It is more but it's sad that rather that integrate new characters with old it has to our them aside mostly and settle for unnecessary drama with Shaw being a jerk to most everyone.
 
The "powers that be" told Chabon to make it less like Star Trek, with minimum references and then two seasons later they did the opposite because the man in charge doesn't have a clue.

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Probably why we got this.
Provide proof and evidence for all these claims.
 
It is more but it's sad that rather that integrate new characters with old it has to our them aside mostly and settle for unnecessary drama with Shaw being a jerk to most everyone.

I think everyone was devastated that Elmo or whoever wasn't involved, but it was a sacrifice worth making when we were able to get characters with personality and that people like.
 
I liked Elnor, and Agnes and Sochi and it would be nice for plot lines not to be blindly dropped.

She almost made it in, but it seems her appearance went the same way Captain Kim's did. Not enough time/money.

Its unfortunate because I feel that Data's arc would've been properly completed had he met her. His quest to become more human was once dependant on fatherhood.
 

She almost made it in, but it seems her appearance went the same way Captain Kim's did. Not enough time/money.

Its unfortunate because I feel that Data's arc would've been properly completed had he met her. His quest to become more human was once dependant on fatherhood.
Indeed. People may not like certain characters but ignoring good story potential for cheap drama will always rub me the wrong way with Season 3.
 
Indeed. People may not like certain characters but ignoring good story potential for cheap drama will always rub me the wrong way with Season 3.
The way season 2 unceremoniously drops so many of the original characters because they needed the money to pay for the TNG cast is particularly insulting. It’s why it’s so difficult to look at Picard as a series as a whole because the seasons are so disjointed from each other.
 
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