That means he only moved up 1 rank from LTJG. Harry commented that if they were back in the Alpha Quadrant he'd be a LT or LCDR and he was only an Ensign. Wouldn't than mean the Paris as a LTJG in Voyager would make LCDR or maybe even Commander
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He's a criminal traitor to starfleet and the federation.
Dudes rank is so imaginary, that they couldn't be bothered to make him a marquis provisional rank badge.
Harry was wrong.
By the time of Nightingale, when that conversation happened, Kim was in contact with all his classmates, and despite that 9/10ths of them were dead from the dominon war.. The survivors were all Commanders.
That's got to be super depressing that 9/10ths of your class-mates are dead from the dominion war.
ST:LDS only takes place 2 years post end of ST:VOY.
Tom Paris getting his Provisional Lt. J.G. converted into a full commission after Voyager came home and a promotion to full Lieutenant sounds about right IMO given the time frame of ST:LDS
By that time Tom is busy being a dad and traveling celebrity within StarFleet.
Miral should be about 3 years old by then, so I wouldn't be surprised if Tom Paris, B'llana are stationed at some large StarBase while Tom & B'llana occassionally travel about within StarFleet to make guest appearances like on the USS Cerritos.
Given all the tech that has come back with Voyager, I wouldn't be surprised if B'llana & Tom are involved in the R&D aspect to bring the new tech they brought back to the rest of the fleet.
Imagine Quantum SlipStream & Transwarp Drives / Corridors becoming a common feature.
Tom Paris got demoted for being involved in a SECOND terrorist organization after becoming a Lieutenant. I'm pretty sure he should never be promoted after that if Worf got told he'd never be a Captain for saving his wife.
Mind you, I want a scene of Harry Kim promoted to Captain forcing Tom to do pushups.
Plus Tom IS a full lieutenant so he WAS promoted. He just should never be promoted past that.
Mind you, I want a scene of Harry Kim promoted to Captain forcing Tom to do pushups.
Plus Tom IS a full lieutenant so he WAS promoted. He just should never be promoted past that.
It's only been three or four years since Voyager got back. And considering Tom was only promoted to Lieutenant JG a year before that (in Unimatrix Zero) I'd say the fact that he's a full Lieutenant less than five years later is a reasonable progression in rank.
Besides, I'm sure Harry's still an Ensign.
Besides, I'm sure Harry's still an Ensign.
In "Non Sequitur", Harry had the potential for making LTJG after only 8 months. Allow 2y to make LT, and another three or four to make LCDR, and yes, it's possible but not certain that he'd be up to LCDR 6y 4m into his career (and that's about when Nightingale takes place). It is inexcusable that he was still an ensign at that point.
Tom, by contrast, was an ensign as of one year before Voyager returned home (promoted back 2377). Allow a couple years as a JG, and he'd be promoted to LT in 2379, and could hope to make LCDR in 2382 or 2383. Since LD is set in 2380, his rank is about right.
Better question... is Kim still an ensign?
Time in grade.
Maybe every starship commander in Starfleet took one look at his seven year ensign service record and said no thanks. For all we know, Harry had to take a posting on a garbage scow somewhere because no one else wanted him.
I want Lower Decks to show him as a full Captain and smug about it.
But it ends with him getting demoted back to ensign cause of something he does! Lol!
I thought the whole crew would move up at least 2 ranks. Janeway skipped 2 and became a 3 star.
After finding out about Tuvix nobody on Voyager will ever get a promotion or a important posting. Except Janeway which they had to do for publicity sakes but they don't let her in on the important missions. Seven even stopped being friends with the crew and left after finally learning the truth of Tuvix.
Tuvix was part Neelix. Therefore a hostile alien presence that needed to be destroyed.
Promotions don't work that way. Indeed, starting with Lieutenant Commander, there's a minimum amount of time an officer is required to spend in each rank before they're eligible for promotion, at least in the real world.
Janeway jumping to Three Star Admiral had more to do with the fact that costuming or props had an abundance of the three-boxed pips. You'll note a lot of the Admirals we see in the 24th century are Three Star Vice Admirals, even ones who are identified in dialogue as Fleet Admirals, and one in particular who is specified in the script to be the head of Starfleet.
Yeah, it's not always clear in Starfleet and props don't always help. Janeway's jump always makes me laugh.
But, as for Paris, time in grade makes the most sense.
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