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Orphan Black - Season 2 Discussion

I like that Felix sort of becomes a brother to all of the clones.

For Felix it was like getting a whole expanded family of people who were already kind of like the one person he considered family. And he's particularly fond of Alison because she needs him more than Sarah does.

Also I wish it would hurry up and be Sunday so I can watch the show. I saw this thread had been updated and got confused and thrilled and thought maybe the new ep was out.
 
Well Transcendence is a piece of shit.

There was a line on the sitcom Sirens about a girl who wasn't impressed by sexuality in general, and proof of this is that she met Johnny Depp and didn't swoon. She went on to say "The man was wearing 8 scarves. At the same time. Who even owns 8 scarves? It was just ridiculous."
 
I haven't seen that Sirens though I did watch the Aus movie Sirens rather a lot of times because of Sam Neill and also the house in it. I was in love with the colour of one of the rooms in that house and eventually I got to go visit the actual house and YES the wall was still that colour and it was very thrilling.
 
I didn't not watch that movie for any hard pressed by reason, but even naked Elle McPhearson, back when Elle mcPhearson meant something, didn't really draw me in.

(Thinking maybe possibly about looking up the nudey bits from Sirens on youtube... Nah, can't be bothered. "sigh" It's actually nice being so old that I can know that boobs exist but I don't have to see them. It must mean that I have finally emotionally put the fact that breastfeeding as a baby stopped to rest.)

There's actually two flavours of Sirens, the 10 episode 20 minute US sitcom produced by Dennis Leary (who did not act in the show) bought the scripts from an English Sirens which was a 40 minute dramody.

Oh look, one of the naked artists models from Sirens is on Game of Thrones this season. If I wait, her boobs are just going to come to me. And really, as far as the other one is concerned, do I really want Ellen's sloppy seconds? ...Probably?

So yeah, Orphan Black still hasn't started.
 
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Well. Dear me. Seelyse Baratheon is not exactly on my top 10 desire to see without top list. Though I do think it's about to happen, she is rather flushed around Melisandre.
 
You've already seen her buck naked when every inch of the woman was young and firm far too often for you not to concerned about her fitness and well being at this late stage in the game.

As a woman, methinks that you should mostly be interested from an architectural perspective, taking into account how vicious wear, tear and gravity have been to her once perfect potrudences.

After all, someone has to win.
 
I picked up the show on Amazon streaming for about 20 bucks. I was determined to get the bluray until I discovered it has practically nothing in the neighborhood of special features. It has like one thing but it's only a few minutes long and equates to nothing more than a featurette. Wasn't worth waiting for Amazon to physically ship me the discs when I could buy it for the same price and watch it right away.

For me, features don't mean much, excepting deleted scenes and extended versions (like a few nuBSG eps).

I bought this blu-ray because it's one of the best shows I've seen in years, and with that thing I do with my blu-rays & DVD's that we don't talk about around here, I was able to do a rewatch of S1 an episode a day at lunch.

10 days, 10 episodes. Not so much in any one day that I couldn't absorb everything, but not so long a time I forgot anything :lol:
 
It's surreal watching "Mrs. S" singing on Youtube. I didn't know she was a singer.
[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tl8-FHb80LE[/yt]
 
I had to Google because that didn't seem like the kind of music I'd expect from a 50 year old singer.

Still good though.
 
Yeesh, I found ep 7 to be, dare I say it, kind of silly? Vic, Leekie, Donnie, their storylines were sort of just trashed. Don't know, gotta chew on that one but not thrilled at the moment.
 
Surely they're setting up for future episodes with some of it.

Vic looking "like he was molested by elves" was just plain silly.
 
Really? You guys had a problem with this episode? The whole clone swapping and comedic nature of the whole thing reminded me of the first season episode with Allison's House Party where similar situations developed.

In other words, I loved tonight's episode.

And how about that ending eh? I figured they were leaving Leekie alive to end up teaming up with Sarah or something. I was both shocked and highly amused at the shooting, I can't tell if I was laughing more because of the way it happened, or laughing at myself for how surprised I was that it happened.

Looks like Michelle Forbes is being set up to be the big bad it seems. Shame about Rachel, I was hoping with the news of Leekie killing her mom she'd change sides and we'd get to see her interacting with the other clones more....ah well.
 
No more Matt Frewer? That's not a good thing. Really unhappy with that. And if they were going to replace him with Michelle Forbes, I wish they would've introduced her earlier so it didn't seem so contrived. I wonder if this was a mid-course correction they had to make due to Frewer having some other commitment emerge.

Also, I kind of wish they'd cast someone other than Forbes. Not that I have anything against her as an actress (nor anything particularly for her), but I already have trouble telling Siobhan and Angela apart sometimes (since they're both wearing knit caps!!), and Forbes has a rather similar facial structure to both of them. It's getting to the point where it's easier for me to tell the clones apart than the non-clones!

One of the reasons I don't entirely love this show is that it does sometimes do things like this that seem to be more about shock value than anything else. It seems like dramas today feel this need to try to top each other for the most shocking and dark and violent moments they can come up with, and that doesn't necessarily equal good or smart storytelling. Indeed, one problem with it is that it's predictable. As soon as I saw Donnie nervously waving that gun around with his finger on the trigger, I knew one of the people in that car was going to get shot.

I do find it amusing, though, that Donnie was Allison's monitor without even knowing that's what he was. I thought he was just really committed to his character, but he really is a doofus. And now he and Allison have something in common -- although Donnie is more directly culpable for Leekie's death than Allison was for Aynsley's. I don't know about Canadian law, but under US law I don't think Allison really had a duty of care for Aynsley; not intervening to save her may have been an awful thing to do, but I'm not sure it's illegal. But Donnie's guilty of involuntary manslaughter at the very least. Going by what Wikipedia says about Canadian law, it would be second-degree murder:
where a person, for an unlawful object, does anything that he knows or ought to know is likely to cause death, and thereby causes death to a human being, notwithstanding that he desires to effect his object without causing death or bodily harm to any human being.
Forcing someone into a car at gunpoint is an unlawful object (assuming that means objective or goal), and aiming a lethal weapon at someone with the safety off and your finger on the trigger is something you ought to know is likely to cause death.

Anyway, where did Donnie get the gun? Was it Allison's?

Speaking of people doing bad things, I'm pretty upset at Felix for screwing up Vic's rehab by giving him drugs. That's a rotten thing to do, even if he did do it to help Allison.

Meanwhile, Kira did a really selfless and noble thing to help Cosima, but it was wince-inducing that she did that to herself -- even if the tooth was already loose. It seems like another shock-value moment; Kira's smart enough that she should've realized there could be an easier way to get the tooth removed.
 
It seemed like dramatic potential was dumped in favor of levity. Three sources of tension were gutted, maybe as mentioned it's to move the story to different places, but it felt anticlimatic.

Also, I kind of wish they'd cast someone other than Forbes. Not that I have anything against her as an actress (nor anything particularly for her), but I already have trouble telling Siobhan and Angela apart sometimes (since they're both wearing knit caps!!)

I never thought they looked much alike but look at their eyebrows: Siobhan __ __ Angela \ / :)

I don't know about Canadian law, but under US law I don't think Allison really had a duty of care for Aynsley; not intervening to save her may have been an awful thing to do, but I'm not sure it's illegal.
Is that the Batman Defense?
 
Well, I wasn't expecting that. Considering the events of the previous episodes, the last thing I expected was a comedy show, but then we did get on in the first season so maybe this was needed here, before the Show got way too serious. I still enjoyed it, but it might be my least favorite episode of the season, considering the stakes. How Dr. Leekie gets it is a little shocking, but I'm not sure I liked that direction. It's kind of an odd feeling in that in the last week I was thinking how non-fatal this show has gotten and someone big does need to get killed soon to really up the stakes. I thought it would have been Paul or Cosmia. I didn't expect it to be Leekie.

It was still a decent episode though. I wish the scene with Duncan and Rachel would have lasted longer and we could have seen some of that conversation but it was probably the same conversation towards Sarah last week. Did like the stuff at the Rehab center, but then anything revolving around Alison is awesome.

Now there are 3 episodes left of this season. Hopefully things start coming to a head soon.
 
It's not like this episode is so out of place. The House Party episode last season: "Variations under Domestication" was episode 6. Tonight's episode was episode 7, they both happened about the same time. And both had about the same about of humor (and coincidentally both had Donnie and Vic yucking it up).
 
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