New Voyages-"World Enough"
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Actually, I had essentially the same question. I keep getting their "sorry" message from the official site. I'm going on a very long vaca in a couple days and I'd love to be able to take this with me. Don't want to mess up their "count" or anything, but I'm jonesin' for some NV.
Heck, if I download it I'll just go back and stream it from the official site, too, so they get their numbers. I just need a fix, man. 
I strongly take exception to the "bad acting" criticism. EVERYBODY has improved from the first episode(yes, even Scotty and hopefully he will get better as time goes on).
I think what the poster actually has a problem with is the whole "they are not Nimoy, Shatner, etc...". It took me a while to see the character and not miss the original actors, but for me, now, Quinn IS Spock in these productions(I am NOT looking forward to him being gone in the next ep and hope this isn't permanent). Cawley has that same confident assurance and subdued sexual presence that Shatner exuded(doesn't hurt that James is one damned handsome and sexy man!). McCoy needs a little more to do but I also think the actor needs a little more confidence.
All in all, however, I think the acting skills are increasing at a rate similar to the rest of the production. If you want to see truly abyssmal production levels look no further than the current "Flash Gordon" tv series. That show is APPALLING on so many levels, yet those people are being paid MONEY to make it.
The mind truly boggles.
I think what the poster actually has a problem with is the whole "they are not Nimoy, Shatner, etc...". It took me a while to see the character and not miss the original actors, but for me, now, Quinn IS Spock in these productions(I am NOT looking forward to him being gone in the next ep and hope this isn't permanent). Cawley has that same confident assurance and subdued sexual presence that Shatner exuded(doesn't hurt that James is one damned handsome and sexy man!). McCoy needs a little more to do but I also think the actor needs a little more confidence.
All in all, however, I think the acting skills are increasing at a rate similar to the rest of the production. If you want to see truly abyssmal production levels look no further than the current "Flash Gordon" tv series. That show is APPALLING on so many levels, yet those people are being paid MONEY to make it.
The mind truly boggles.
Holy wow... I'd downloaded all the NV episodes a few months ago but never watched them and then I decided that I was bored and NV was the way to go... so with a stream of WEaT open in the background, loading, I popped in my DVDs.
So totally cool - was my first reaction. Huge worlds of improvement from Come What May to In Harm's Way (great story using the Guardian)... but then came TSAMD... wow. It was a little on the low key side but effective.
However... WEaT blew my expectations out of the park. Phenomenal. This episode has sold me on NV and I'm now registered on the boards and ready to follow the production a heck of a lot closer than I had been. This was a Star Trek episode of callibur that I haven't seen in quite a while (not at all related to the fact that Trek's been off the air.. ). You know, I wasn't a fan of TOS and I still am not really... but I'm content with NV. It's still a little rough on the edges but by WEaT, I'm comfortable with the new Kirk and Spock (and now I have to adjust to a new one just as I got on board with Quinn). Uhura was hard to come to grips with but by the wonderful pacing of the opening scene of WEaT, I was sold. I agree that McCoy is probably the weakest of the bunch, but there's nothing wrong with that among this production.
WEaT opened with a bang - it was sharp, crystal clear for the most part... the effects around the daughter were amazing and i could have just stared at those colors line thingys for hours. My favorite part was the bookending on the Excelsior - I kept watching the episode wondering who was in that shuttle from the beginning and needless to say my wild theories got a little out of hand but the resolution was wonderful - and the last scene on the bridge with a certain visitor watching from just outside the turbolift... most network TV can't get me to the emotional point that that did.
Huge kudos to you all... I don't know how you do it, but keep it up - you've got a new fan onboard here.
So totally cool - was my first reaction. Huge worlds of improvement from Come What May to In Harm's Way (great story using the Guardian)... but then came TSAMD... wow. It was a little on the low key side but effective.
However... WEaT blew my expectations out of the park. Phenomenal. This episode has sold me on NV and I'm now registered on the boards and ready to follow the production a heck of a lot closer than I had been. This was a Star Trek episode of callibur that I haven't seen in quite a while (not at all related to the fact that Trek's been off the air..
). You know, I wasn't a fan of TOS and I still am not really... but I'm content with NV. It's still a little rough on the edges but by WEaT, I'm comfortable with the new Kirk and Spock (and now I have to adjust to a new one just as I got on board with Quinn). Uhura was hard to come to grips with but by the wonderful pacing of the opening scene of WEaT, I was sold. I agree that McCoy is probably the weakest of the bunch, but there's nothing wrong with that among this production.WEaT opened with a bang - it was sharp, crystal clear for the most part... the effects around the daughter were amazing and i could have just stared at those colors line thingys for hours. My favorite part was the bookending on the Excelsior - I kept watching the episode wondering who was in that shuttle from the beginning and needless to say my wild theories got a little out of hand but the resolution was wonderful - and the last scene on the bridge with a certain visitor watching from just outside the turbolift... most network TV can't get me to the emotional point that that did.
Huge kudos to you all... I don't know how you do it, but keep it up - you've got a new fan onboard here.
That was very moving. I got a "Inner Light" "The Visitor" feel from it, very emotional. I never thought I'd say this, but I can finally agree with what some people have said, this show is incredible. Some of the CG later on was lacking, but I'm just quibbling.
Excellent work by everyone involved.
My only issue is Montgomery Scott. Please replace the actor, he just doesn't do the part justice. Ugh, his accent...
I come from a Scottish family and a few people overheard his accent while I was watching and they all laughed at it. So this isn't just me saying this.
Spock, Kirk and Bones were great in this one. And I really liked Sulu's daughter.
As for Sulu himself...wow. Incredible. And the little addition of his daughter from Generations at the end was very tasteful. Can't say I'm looking forward to the next episode, looks pretty TNG season 1 cheese to me. We'll see though!
Excellent work by everyone involved.
My only issue is Montgomery Scott. Please replace the actor, he just doesn't do the part justice. Ugh, his accent...
I come from a Scottish family and a few people overheard his accent while I was watching and they all laughed at it. So this isn't just me saying this.
Spock, Kirk and Bones were great in this one. And I really liked Sulu's daughter.
As for Sulu himself...wow. Incredible. And the little addition of his daughter from Generations at the end was very tasteful. Can't say I'm looking forward to the next episode, looks pretty TNG season 1 cheese to me. We'll see though!
I had the same thought.
Talking of Charles and that accent, as someone who has lived in Scotland for most of his life, I really don't think his accent is any worse that Jimmy Doohan's. Cut the guy some slack.
True (though I prefer "writer" to "visionary", the latter being cant) but "I, Robot" was Asimov's.
IMHO Bradbury was the first American sci-fi writer to combine great writing with the limitless vistas of sci-fi. (Very much like what Roddenberry was trying to do with TOS in TV)
Fahrenheit 451 is one of the greatest allegories about censorship ever written. The Illustrated Man is one of the greatest collections of science-fiction stories ever written.
The Martian Chronicles has achieved classic status even among "serious" literature critics.
Bradbury is a curmudgeonly old cuss these days, but he is one of the finest and most revered American men of letters.
Go find a copy of "The Illustrated Man" or "Fahrenheit 451" it'll be the best gift you've given yourself in a long time.
The episode, and script by default, had a lot of intertextuality to it. It even goes further in that the place Dr. Lisa Chandris joined the ship was Altar IV (the planet that was visited in Forbidden Planet). Not only did they use The Tempest as a point of departure, they also referenced the previous science-fiction version of the play. I also liked that Alana was both Miranda and Ariel in one.
This episode came out on the heels of my reading of Christopher L. Bennett's TNG novel, The Buried Age which also makes a lot of references to The Tempest and Shakespeare in general. There's even a character named Ariel. So, the play was still "fresh" in my mind.
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So any help on how this is available right now? 
I've never heard of a sci fi fan who doesn't know Bradbury, please tell me your very young at least.
Back to the show, I hate the waiting as much as you guys who haven't seen it. I saw 16 minutes of it before the stream died and what I did see was great so I want to see the rest. That being said, I read in an earlier post the Crawley wants to charge money for us to see NV, well like I said when the whole Tim Russ thing happened with OGAM, I will not pay to see a fan film no matter how good it is or who is in it. A fan film is made by fans, for fans. That would be like me charging money for someone to read my fan fiction. I would never do it.
I really don't understand the fuss about the performances. I thought the stiffest acting came from George Takei and Grace Lee Whitney.
Christina Moses was wonderful. She really sold the story. As schmaltzy as it was, I got a little choked up towards the end.
And the effects were fantastic. That shot of the Romulan ships passing overhead at the beginning looked at least as good as the effects on Star Trek: Enterprise.
It was a great episode, and was George Takei's finest hour as Sulu.
I'm really going to miss Jeff Quinn as Spock next time.
Christina Moses was wonderful. She really sold the story. As schmaltzy as it was, I got a little choked up towards the end.
And the effects were fantastic. That shot of the Romulan ships passing overhead at the beginning looked at least as good as the effects on Star Trek: Enterprise.
It was a great episode, and was George Takei's finest hour as Sulu.
I'm really going to miss Jeff Quinn as Spock next time.
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