New Series Announcement from StarTrek.com - Begins January 17, 2017

[timtonruben359]

Re: New Series Announcement from StarTrek.com - Begins January 17, 201

Last summer there were serious rumors that CBS was shopping a Star Trek project around to other online streaming sites like Netflix, so I'm not surprised the show will be online. My guess is that Star Trek is the first announced of a few first run shows CBS is planning for its on demand service.

I'm Canadian so I'm interested to see what format we will see the show in. In that Crave here in Canada has exclusive rights for most Trek content.

 

[MvRojo]

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Moonves said it's more than 100k, but refused to give any further numbers.

Yeah, which I guess isn't terrible considering there's currently no exclusive content.

 

[Commander Richard]

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Since Kurtzman is involved, I am guessing it will take place in the current Abrams movie universe.

I hope so.

 

[dub]

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I heard Worf is going to be the main character.

 

[Tai]

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You know what's funny? Back in 2006 when Enterprise was getting cancelled most of the fans trying to save it advocated hard for crowd-funding the show. The concept was too nascent at that time for the television executives to take it seriously, but 10 years later that's EXACTLY what we're getting.

Now it really IS in the control of the fans. Die-hard fans can literally pay for the show. Which, makes me think, God forbid that the show is in danger of cancellation, can we sign up for multiple subscriptions to artificially inflate the numbers? Will there be a guy paying $120.00 a month in subscription cost and streaming Star Trek on 20 different tabs of Chrome? I can see it already.

 

[Warbird]

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Any word on what timeline it will be going with? I have no interest in the new Trek films, I hope it's set a few years after DS9/Voyager.

I take it they didn't go with Chronicles of Worf or what ever it was called.

 

[Tai]

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I would love it if it was set in 2394, which would be the "current" year in 2017 (Star Trek: Nemesis having taken place in 2379). That'd be my dream. But who knows.

 

[Technobuilder]

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I can't imagine the Worf or Tuvok shows getting much traction with the current powers that be.

I HOPE they go for a Post-24th century show of some type where the Federation has utilized Slipstream to shorten distances and fill in lots of gaps.

I'll take a series like Vanguard though too. Something HBO might do in adapting Star Trek.

Regardless of what happens, the same old shit isn't going to fly. If they just try to turn the current movies into a TV series.... it's going to be a fucking disaster.

Action/Adventure is all well and good, but Star Trek has always been about Characters. Hopefully there's someone still involved that remembers that.

 

[XManRCJ]

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NY Times: "A new movie in the film franchise (with a new crop of actors playing the characters on Kirk and Spock’s Enterprise), called “Star Trek Beyond,” is planned for release next summer, but is “not related” to this latest TV series, CBS said."

Makes sense since the Paramount/CBS split. Lets CBS stay away from the new timeline Abrams started. If they stick to the original timeline, the only things they have to use from XI is Spock gone missing and Romulus blown up. I think it be cool if the pilot starts with "Previously On Star Trek:" shows the destruction of Romulus scene from XI and goes from there. I don't care if the ship isn't the Enterprise, but I'd hope they use the history and just start the show post-2387.

 

[AviTrek]

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I would love it if it was set in 2394, which would be the "current" year in 2017 (Star Trek: Nemesis having taken place in 2379). That'd be my dream. But who knows.

By the same logic you could argue 2316 which would be 50 years from TOS Season 1.

 

[Nobody]

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I guess I come from the opposite mindset, I never found Netflix an essential service given my cable/dvr package. I only subscribed for House of Cards. Similarly I don't have Prime streaming yet, but will likely sign up for Man in the High Castle. So CBS is just doing the same thing. Remember, if you already subscribe then you add no new revenue for a new show. The show needs to entice new subscribers and keep them to be a success.

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It's likely a loss leader. Pay for the first season upfront in exchange for hoping it drives enough subscribers to justify its cost. All Access is run by CBS, so from a corporate perspective they have the cash to risk on it.

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Moonves said it's more than 100k, but refused to give any further numbers.

That makes sense. I come at from a perspective of cancelled cable for streaming only. I think the big difference from Netflix/Amazon/Hulo compared to CBS is they can take the hit of people only subscribing to watch one show (and to be fair, Amazon Prime main selling point is the shipping. Not the streaming). CBS has a lot less room for error with the cancelling of subs given their low number.

I did just come across the interesting numbers on FiveThirtyEight. Though I wonder if the answers would be different if they limited the questions to the new movie.

 

[Campe]

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NY Times: "A new movie in the film franchise (with a new crop of actors playing the characters on Kirk and Spock’s Enterprise), called “Star Trek Beyond,” is planned for release next summer, but is “not related” to this latest TV series, CBS said."

Makes sense since the Paramount/CBS split. Lets CBS stay away from the new timeline Abrams started. If they stick to the original timeline, the only things they have to use from XI is Spock gone missing and Romulus blown up. I think it be cool if the pilot starts with "Previously On Star Trek:" shows the destruction of Romulus scene from XI and goes from there. I don't care if the ship isn't the Enterprise, but I'd hope they use the history and just start the show post-2387.

I posted this elsewhere, but I'll do it here again:

"Is not related" could mean a few different things.

• It could mean that it's going back to the Primeverse. Sure. That's a possibility. But, I think it's the least likely scenario.
• It could mean that it will be set in the same universe but not deal with any of the characters or situations involved in the story told in Beyond. Paramount has made a mint with the two Abramsverse movies. Why wouldn't CBS want to capitalize on that?
• It could mean that it is going to be something completely different. They may be bold and really make Star Trek a multiverse.

 

[timtonruben359]

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My guess that it will take place in another alternate timeline where they can have references to the other shows and movies but not have have to worry about continuity.

 

[Hound of UIster]

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That is indeed a third possibility.

 

[jefferiestubes8]

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Now it really IS in the control of the fans. Die-hard fans can literally pay for the show.

Without fan feedback during the production?
Could CBS produce a 13-episode Trek series in a vacuum and release it all at once? Why would they release it all at once instead of 1 episode per week?
Which would be best for Trek and for CBS All Access subscriptions?
Will there be advertisers ?

 

[Tai]

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I'd love a 2316 show, but unfortunately the opportunity for cameos is limited due to the fact that we've lost many of the beloved actors from the original series. Whereas a show in 2394 would have opportunity for every actor in TNG/DS9/VOY to appear.

 

[Nobody]

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Now it really IS in the control of the fans. Die-hard fans can literally pay for the show.

Could CBS produce a 13-episode Trek series in a vacuum and release it all at once? Why would they release it all at once instead of 1 episode per week?
Which would be best for Trek and for CBS All Access subscriptions?
Will there be advertisers ?
Will it be made for a

I imagine CBS keeps with the traditional model and does one episode a week. They're going to need to/want to stretch out those subscriptions as long as possible. They don't have the numbers of Netflix to fall back on for people to subscribe for one month than cancel.

 

[DigificWriter]

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CBS All Access is the broadcast equivalent to HBO Go and HBO Now; if you're subscribed to the service, you get instant access to a growing back-log of CBS-owned/affiliated television programs as well as everything that CBS currently airs.

 

[XManRCJ]

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Didn't Abrams and CBS have a merchandising fight? Like Abrams wanted more Movie character stuff made and for CBS to lay off the TOS stuff and CBS was like "do you know how much $$$ we make on this stuff? NO!" So since then, Paramount and CBS have pretty much stayed out of each others way. I'd guess it's going to stay that way until we have another Trek based off TV show movie series.

I'm going to go with: back in the regular timeline, just not a Enterprise-(fghij) crew since it's not a broadcast show. That was CBS can milk cameos galore from the five shows if they choose & since I'm assuming it won't be a 26 episode season, we don't have to spend any more time than a minute of screen time saying "Borg haven't been seen since Voyager came back/Dominion haven't been seen since the war" etc.

 

[USS Triumphant]

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I'm hoping that the series isn't tied so closely with CBS All Access that it can't survive if the subscription model bombs. Sliding it over to CBS proper, or even shopping it out to cable channels, might let it survive what I expect will be a rough start: I know that I, for one, do not need ANOTHER subscription service.