Negative one million degrees?
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You couldn't project an attack with any material at absolute zero, because such material wouldn't be able to move. By virtue of moving, it has kinetic energy, therefore it's not at absolute zero.
Similarly, there's an upper limit on how hot an attack you can launch before the air turns to plasma and incinerates all concerned, including the attacker.
This is the equation modeling the relationship between mean particle speed vs temperature:
(1/2)m.v^2 = (3/2)kT
(=mean kinetic energy)
where k is Boltzmann's constant.
v = mean speed of particle (rms)
T = temperature (Kelvins)
m = mass (kg)
If I remember my fluid mechanics lectures correctly, the 3 in there represents the number of degrees of freedom for the fluid particle (the x,y,z-axes). This is because the kinetic energy is shared out between movements along these three axes. So this only applies to perfect gases, and monatomic gases at that, like Helium or Argon.
If this were diatomic like N2 or O2 or H2, etc, then you get another 2 dimensions, representing the energy taken up by the spinning/reorientation of this now 'elongated' 1-dimensional gas particle. I visualise this like a little jelly bean wobbling around. Then (1/2)m.v^2 = (5/2)kT
With more complex gas molecules, and if you get into high velocities (hypersonics), then the molecular bonds between atoms can start to feel the force of the movement too, so it introduces two more dimensions that energy can be shared out between: 'side skew' and 'stretch' of bonds. I imagine this like a little the little jelly bean is elastic in the middle, allowing its two ends to stretch and skew around. ; (1/2)m.v^2 = (7/2)kT
But as you can see, the only way you can rejig this equation to make T negative is to either make m negative (negative mass, if possible) or make v into complex number (add extra dimensions to universe, if possible)
(1/2)m.v^2 = (3/2)kT
(=mean kinetic energy)
where k is Boltzmann's constant.
v = mean speed of particle (rms)
T = temperature (Kelvins)
m = mass (kg)
If I remember my fluid mechanics lectures correctly, the 3 in there represents the number of degrees of freedom for the fluid particle (the x,y,z-axes). This is because the kinetic energy is shared out between movements along these three axes. So this only applies to perfect gases, and monatomic gases at that, like Helium or Argon.
If this were diatomic like N2 or O2 or H2, etc, then you get another 2 dimensions, representing the energy taken up by the spinning/reorientation of this now 'elongated' 1-dimensional gas particle. I visualise this like a little jelly bean wobbling around. Then (1/2)m.v^2 = (5/2)kT
With more complex gas molecules, and if you get into high velocities (hypersonics), then the molecular bonds between atoms can start to feel the force of the movement too, so it introduces two more dimensions that energy can be shared out between: 'side skew' and 'stretch' of bonds. I imagine this like a little the little jelly bean is elastic in the middle, allowing its two ends to stretch and skew around. ; (1/2)m.v^2 = (7/2)kT
But as you can see, the only way you can rejig this equation to make T negative is to either make m negative (negative mass, if possible) or make v into complex number (add extra dimensions to universe, if possible)
I was stuck in a lecture like that, on second thought sounds more like Thanksgiving at the inlaws.
I heard that they gave him organic web spinners to be consistent with the movies, but I hadn't heard about the stingers or spider communication; that's definitely ridiculous.
The organic spinners were always more sensible to me anyway. In a superhero universe, more sensible that spiderman can shoot webs as one of his powers, or that a teenage high school student can create a formula and delivery device entirely off his own back to do exactly what he wants?
Well, he's supposed to be a science nerd and science nerds can do stuff like that in the superhero universe. 
Anyway, that's the way it was established for forty odd years.....
Anyway, that's the way it was established for forty odd years.....
Ok, that's not exactly right.
Temperature is MOLECULAR kinetic energy. It has to do with the motion of molecules. Well, remember that motion is totally relative and requires some kind of reference frame. As long as all of the molecules of an object are stationary with respect to EACH OTHER, that object is still at absolute zero, even if the object is moving through space relative to another object.
Correct, although it's academic anyway - absolute zero is unreachable as it would violate Heisenberg uncertainty.
And gone. Spidey got a few power boosts in recent years but they've all been undone by Brand New Day, thankfully. He's back to using webshooters and worrying about how he's going to pay for the chemicals needed to make web fluid too.
The webshooters thing works for Spider-Man in the comic books because he's supposed to be extremely intelligent. His intelligence level is listed as "Gifted". People like Reed Richards can talk to him without having to dumb it down and are often surprised at how smart he is.
Wow. What a lucky co-incidence that someone with the intelligence to make something like that was the one to get superhero powers.
Imagine if it was just an ordinary person who got superhero powers instead!
Imagine if it was just an ordinary person who got superhero powers instead!
What like Johnny Storm, Ben Grimm, most mutants, Daredevil, She-Hulk, Wasp, Ms. Marvel and about a thousand others I could name ?
Excellent. I haven't come across too many details about Brand New Day; I was just kind of aware that it nullified his marriage to Mary Jane. Which I have mixed feelings about.
There was a What If anthology issue on that very topic.
Brand New Day had the follow effects:
- Spider-Man's powers and abilities were reset to the classics. He, once again, has the "proportional strength of a spider", superhuman agility, Spider-Sense, generally enhanced physiology (i.e. a greater resistance to injury, faster healing, higher metabolism, running speed etc) and wall-crawling. He augments this with mechanical webshooters containing a fluid of his own design.
- All of the subsequent enhancements to his powers from Spider-Man: Disassembled and Spider-Man: The Other are gone. He no longer has night vision, venomous stingers that protrude from his arms, telepathic contact with spiders or organic webbing. His Spider-Sense was also enhanced to the point where he could create a large web in a large collapsing building and detect a baby trapped within it by sensing vibrations on the web. This has been undone.
- The mystical explanation for his powers is now not acknowledged. It is no longer suggested that the radioactive spider chose to bite him deliberately and it was not a freak accident.
- No-one knows that Peter Parker is Spider-Man. Not Mary-Jane, not Aunt May, Daredevil, his fellow New Avengers or anyone else. It is not clear even if S.H.I.E.L.D. knew anymore before they were disbanded. People do remember Peter unmasking during the Civil War but they cannot remember who it was under the mask.
- Harry Osborn is alive, apparently sane and healthy and is again Peter's best friend. Exactly how this happened is unclear.
- Aunt May is alive and healthy, which was the sole condition of Peter and MJ accepting Mephisto's deal.
- Peter, once again, is a freelance photographer for The Daily Bugle which has suffered financial difficulties and has been turned in to a biased tabloid called "The DB!". Prior to Brand New Day he was a science teacher at his old high school. He and Robbie Robertson, however, have left the newspaper since to work for Front Line - a new online newspaper set up by Ben Urich.
- Peter and MJ's new backstory is that they briefly dated but it did not work out. MJ has moved to Los Angeles to pursue her career.
- Possibly as a result of these changes, a new superheroine named Jackpot has been active in New York City, bearing a striking resemblance to MJ. When challenged, she freely tells Spider-Man that her real name is Sara Ehret. This proves not to be true. In reality, Ehret was a real, registered superheroine but elected to retire. Another woman, named Alana Jobson, took the Jackpot identity but used illegal mutant growth hormone drugs to artificially give herself superpowers. Jobson subsequently died when these drugs combined with drugs used by a supervillain named Blindside with lethal effect.
- Multiple new supervillains have appeared in New York. Most notable is the Green Goblin-like villain Menace who may or may not be Harry Osborn.
- Peter has a new love interest in the shape of NYPD forensics expert Carlie Cooper.
Aside from that, many other events remain constant. Despite the fact that The Other never happened, Iron Man still gave Spidey a new technologically enhanced costume which he has since duplicated and given to three clones of Michael Van Patrick with the intention that they would "take over" the Spider-Man identity once the unregistered Parker was apprehended.
He also still joined the New Avengers and remains a member now.
Ben Grimm was an astronaut before becoming the Thing. Not exactly ordinary.
What like Johnny Storm, Ben Grimm, most mutants, Daredevil, She-Hulk, Wasp, Ms. Marvel and about a thousand others I could name ?
Ben Grimm was an astronaut before becoming the Thing. Not exactly ordinary.
What like Johnny Storm, Ben Grimm, most mutants, Daredevil, She-Hulk, Wasp, Ms. Marvel and about a thousand others I could name ?
This has always bothered me. Despite the fact that astronauts have to have a lot going on upstairs, they always portray Ben Grimm as being a bit of a knuckledragger.
Ben Grimm was an astronaut before becoming the Thing. Not exactly ordinary.
What like Johnny Storm, Ben Grimm, most mutants, Daredevil, She-Hulk, Wasp, Ms. Marvel and about a thousand others I could name ?
Okay, so we'll remove him from my list of millions.
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