Lost in Space: original vs. the 2 remakes
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The Netflix series is honestly the only good (and, at times, even excellent) version in the bunch. The original series was overall a silly kids show and the movie overcompensated for that (IMO) with a dark and depressing Aliens meets generic time travel plot (though I'm not going to complain about Heather Graham and Mimi Rogers in those rubbery space suits).
I admit I would’ve liked to learn more about the background universe of the movie, and especially their friend who became a starship captain looking for them.
Loved the movie when I saw it as a teen.
The Netflix series was even better, one of the best "space" shows I've seen.
When on Hulu to watch the original, and...
The movie tried way too hard to be rough and tumble and set the stakes really high, and then promptly moved on from the eminent destruction of Earth.
I liked Matt LeBlanc but the rest lands so flatly. Plus time travel.
This is why I love the movie.
I loved the final confrontation between future-Will, John, Spider-Smith, and flying through the planet as it broke up. 
I read on Wikipedia after I saw this thread that Bill Mumy wanted to play future Will in the movie, but the people who were making it wouldn't let him because it would "confuse people". Which seems kind of silly to me, that would have been the perfect way to draw in fans of the original. They also offered Johnathan Harris a cameo, but he turned them down saying the only way he'd be involved was if he played Smith, and that he didn't do "bit parts".
I just watched the animated special. After you guys set the expectations bar so low, I was surprised at how (relatively) good it was! I found it highly watchable by 1970s Saturday morning standards.
Allowing for it being aimed at kids, the only trouble I saw was that it was twice as long as an episode should be. The proper dosage for this is a half-hour time slot. And it needed better music. But fix that, and I wish they had gone on and made the series.
I hope it didn't scare you from the sole decent cinematic ROBO.I loved RoboCop (the series) when I was 10 or 11 when it was on local TV.
Tried to watch it as an adult, and I'm like:
FIRST BLOOD II, however, was so bad-by-design, the RAMBO cartoon seemed better by default.
Penny takes root, temporarily, while Smith goes full-celery-tree. Bad by design, and arguably overrated despite its reputation.Really? I must have missed that episode.
If you could only see one episode per season, I'd recommend THE MAGIC MIRROR for its OUTER LIMITS-style cinematography, TRIP THROUGH THE ROBOT for its fourth-act suspense, and THE ANTI-MATTER MAN for the Robot's funniest-ever mental breakdown.
The Robot is ALWAYS good. But if you want to see the better parts of all the episodes, perhaps its's best to simply skip all the Will-Smith combo scenes minus the Robot. Any other kid would've been wise enough to ditch the pansy adult after the 38th weekly betrayal anyhow.
Any other kid would've been wise enough to ditch the pansy adult after the 38th weekly betrayal anyhow.
The rinse and repeat formula ended up hurting all 4 Irwin Allen sci-fi series; as a producer, Allen could not help himself, thinking that one gimmick was welcome by viewers, whether it was a screaming pansy in go-go boots, exploding consoles, or someone painted with silver greasepaint, etc. Apparently, he plugged his ears at the point audiences complained or simply turned the dial to something else.
I have the trilogy and remake/reboot on Blu-ray, love the 4 films. The two attempts at TV: the Canadian kid-friendly show, and the badly-made 4-part miniseries (Prime Directives) were just... no. In the TV show, RoboCop is kid friendly and can't shoot anyone. WTF is the point of the show? The whole point of RoboCop was that Detrioit got so violent, cops dying left and right including Murphy himself, you needed a RoboCop. He's not there to be robot-detective. As for the miniseries, I've seen better-made YouTube original short films.
Circling back, I still love all 4 movies. 
Why was Rambo 2 bad? I have the 5-film collection on Blu-ray, all 5 are great films.
I guess you did not notice my profile picture. The Great Vegetable Rebellion is one of my favorite episodes.
Ahem.
Number Two was bad because Rambo was psychic at all the right moments. He opened his eyes to kill the chief Russian precisely at the right second, only coincidentally saving his own life that same moment. He then determined without evidence that Martin Kove's character personally betrayed him and returned his ''welcome back'' with a gut-punch.* Rambo even knew which tree of 48 to hide on so he could jump on the 57th soldier who stopped under that singular tree. I'll stop at three examples, though there are many more in the film.
(*Granted he was right about Kove, but how did he know he was? He wasn't on Crenna's chopper when Kove and the Johnny Fever lookalike betrayed Crenna. Kove gave Stallone a sad look as he passed. Not an evil one. So how did he know Kove wasn't forced to follow Napier's orders?)
FIRST BLOOD One benefits from Brian Dennehy's occasional concern for civilians despite his general villainy. I even enjoy RAMBO 3's wacky and ultimately successful attempts to out-action RAMBO 2. And as always Jerry Goldsmith made RAMBO 2 and 3 musically memorable. I'm not going to comment on the other two except to say that RAMBO 3 was the best nail in the coffin the series needed.
I'm guessing the 2nd film suffers from being an over-the-top 80's action movie?
I just let it be a fun action movie with Stallone taking out the bad guys and rescuing people to clear his name and simply because they needed rescuing. The third film was pretty good too. Why no love for the 4th film? It's my favorite! The 5th film was good, but I can see some saying he's too old for this.
Another trope was the Siamese Twin Robinson sisters, who always ran down the same 45-degree angle whenever the Jupiter Two lurched and tilted.
Because 3's better than 2, while 4 can't touch 3.
But why?Because 3's better than 2, while 4 can't touch 3.
No love for Irwin Allen? LIS is the only show he's done that I've seen any episodes of.
His sci-fi series usually had strong pilots and the occasional good, early episode, but his ideas on storytelling were best served when working from the work of others, and in the limited format of a film, proven by The Poseidon Adventure and The Towering Inferno--two films where there was no sign of a screaming weirdo, surplus WW2 consoles exploding, and encountering monsters every other second.
My long-standing crush on Jayne Brook didn't hold me, either.The Robinsons 2004 pilot? I tried to watch 5 minutes of it, but I couldn't. I kept skipping ahead until I bailed.
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