List of ships in each series?
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To be fair, the name K't'inga had been used in official publications like the Encyclopedia, Fact Files, Eaglemoss, etc. for quite some time before the name was ever mentioned on screen.
True, but it wasn't cemented into canon until Strange New Worlds actually both said the name out loud and had it visible on screen.
But yeah I’m pretty sure most Fed (and other faction) ship class names are never said or seen in an episode/movie, they all come from BTS/non-canpn sources
Sovereign class for example is written on the Ent-E’s dedication plaque, but I don’t think it’s legible in any scenes.
Edit: the class name is visible on the MSD in first contact
Edit: the class name is visible on the MSD in first contact
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It's also displayed on the MSD. Plus, Lower Decks has mentioned the Sovereign class on multiple occasions.
Two Oberth-class ships were seen in Emissary, the ship at the Battle of Wolf 359 and the ship carrying Bashir and Dax to DS9. The second ship bore the registry of the Yosemite; the ST Encyclopedia identifies the ship as the Cochrane.
For some reason i never got the sense that Carolina was Starship Class. Maybe because all of the tie-in materials that shaped my Trek knowledge seem to have forgotten it existed. The "USS" probably does mean it was Starfleet.
USS Horizon and USS Valiant, although maybe Valiant could have been one of the very first Starship Class ships, but that would make it 30 years older than Enterprise. The entire real world Nimitz carrier program spanned 38 years, so maybe that's not entirely unreasonable.
Yes, the Valiant in "A Taste of Armageddon" was referred to as the "USS Valiant." Thank you. Yes, agreed there's some wiggle room about whether it is a Starship Class.
However, in "A Piece of the Action," the Horizon was never referred to as the "USS Horizon."
(The "SS Valiant" talked about in "Where No Man Has Gone Before" is clearly not the same ship mentioned in "A Taste of Armageddon.")
There's a production memo from Justman and Fontana (reproduced in "The Making of Star Trek" I think?) that lists the Starship Class vessels like this: Enterprise, Constellation, Exeter, Intrepid, Lexington, Excalibur, Hood, Potemkin, Yorktown, Farragut, Republic, Valiant, Constitution and Kongo. The Defiant should be added but it didn't exist yet (this list is from 1967). It seems the Horizon and USS Carolina were considered a different class.
It’s probably as simple as Starfleet having earlier ‘Starship Classes’ that the Horizon, Archon, Valiant and Carolina belonged to, but were superseded by the newer ‘Starship Class’ Enterprise and her sister ships of the 2260’s. I believe that was Matt Jefferies’s intention with registry numbers in the 1600s and lower being a different older class of starship than the newer 1700+ ships. In that regard, the 1371 Republic would not have been a Constitution class ship, but a much older ship that was still a 'Starship Class' vessel that might no longer have even been in service in the context of the episode.
(I realize this theory doesn’t work with the 1017 Constellation, but that was because the person who made the model obviously had no idea about Jefferies’s registry scheme.)
(I realize this theory doesn’t work with the 1017 Constellation, but that was because the person who made the model obviously had no idea about Jefferies’s registry scheme.)
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The old Space Flight Chronology has the Horizon being its own class of explorer, the first such class to be directly sponsored by the UFP, a few years before the Romulan War broke out.
The Horizon had a second generation warp system with a maximum speed of about warp 3, whereas the TOS Enterprise has a fourth generation system for the Chronology. It's a bit amusing that the Iotians apparently had a culture in which literal mimicry was quite exciting, and the decision to leave the books behind wasn't entirely careless from the captain's perspective. Oops...
The Horizon had a second generation warp system with a maximum speed of about warp 3, whereas the TOS Enterprise has a fourth generation system for the Chronology. It's a bit amusing that the Iotians apparently had a culture in which literal mimicry was quite exciting, and the decision to leave the books behind wasn't entirely careless from the captain's perspective. Oops...
Oops, you're correct, oddly enough, last week I was looking at the Spaceflight Chronology entries that @Unicron posted which probably planted that bit of erroneous data in my head.
Same is true of the D-7 designation. It originated as a joke on Roddenberry that Nimoy and Shatner played on him. (The story is told in The Making of Star Trek so it was before the third season) but was first mentioned on screen in "Trials and Tribble-ations" in the 90s.
--Alex
There's a bit of dialogue in "A Piece of the Action" where Kirk states to Oxmyx that the Enterprise 'won't land,' implying that the Horizon actually did land on the planet and that the Iotians were not aware of transporters, which is borne out in the episode. This also implies that the Horizon did not have transporters, despite Starfleet ships in ENT having them. I got the impression, based solely on the context of APOTA, that the Horizon was a much smaller ship to be able to have landing and takeoff abilities, and definitely not a Daedalus class ship as was depicted in the Star Trek Chronology/Encyclopedia.
The old Space Flight Chronology has the Horizon being its own class of explorer, the first such class to be directly sponsored by the UFP
That was an outstanding bit of art.
