We might even have seen what Kelvinverse Romulans living in the 2250s thought of Nero's actions, perhaps some (the Kelvin counterpart to the "Balance of Terror" Romulans) might even team up with the Enterprise to help stop him.
If the Kelvinverse were a television show instead of a movie
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Would they though? That was also dependent on the Federation not knowing what Romulans looked like, and the Romulans playing off of the fear of the unknown. Nero revealing himself ruins that. The element of surprise is gone.
If anything, Romulans probably exchange technology with the Klingons several years earlier because of Nero. Probably even integrate their crews as well. So, the plasma weapons are for the Klingons to test on Federation outposts instead, along with the Narada style cloaks. While the Romulans get their hands on Klingon research of the Narada and red matter, along with Klingon warbirds.
I WISH this happened. It had so much potential. I will say that they did an amazing job considering they had roughly 7 hrs a screen time with this cast vs the 79 ep and 6 movies TOS got.
Khan being re-frozen allows the possibility of a return. Interestingly enough, aside from his augmented health and lifespan, he'd still be the same age as when they last saw him and they'd all be older.
KIRK: It-it-it... look, who is responsible for the Klingon attack? Was the ship Romul...
UHURA: Was the ship what?
KIRK: (to McCoy) What's happening to my mouth?
MCCOY: You got numb tongue?
KIRK: (mumbled) Numb tongue!
MCCOY: I can fix that!
(McCoy briefly leaves)
UHURA: Was the ship what?
KIRK: (mumbled) Romulan!
UHURA: What?
KIRK: (mumbled, but clearer) Romulan
UHURA: Romulan?
*
KIRK: Vulcan is not experiencing a natural disaster. It's being attacked by Romulans.
*
KIRK: That same anomaly, a lightning storm in space that we saw today, also occurred on the day of my birth. Before a Romulan ship attacked the USS Kelvin. (to Pike) You know that, sir, I read your dissertation. That ship which had formidable and advanced weaponry was never seen or heard from again. The Kelvin attack took place on the edge of Klingon space and at twenty-three hundred hours last night, there was an attack. Forty-seven Klingon warbirds destroyed by a Romulan, sir. It was reported that the Romulans were in one ship, one massive ship.
PIKE: And you know of this Klingon attack how?
UHURA: Sir, I intercepted and translated the message myself. Kirk's report is accurate.
KIRK: We're warping into a trap, sir. The Romulans are waiting for us, I promise you that.
SPOCK: The Cadet's logic is sound. And Lieutenant Uhura is unmatched in xenolinguistics, we would be wise to accept her conclusion.
PIKE: Scan Vulcan space, check for any transmissions in Romulan.
MALE LIEUTENANT: Sir, I'm not sure I can distinguish the Romulan language from Vulcan.
PIKE: (to Uhura) What about you? Do you speak Romulan, Cadet?
UHURA: Uhura. All three dialects, sir.
PIKE: Uhura, relieve the lieutenant.
UHURA: Yes sir.
PIKE: Hannity, hail the USS Truman.
HANNITY: All the other ships are out of warp, sir, and have arrived at Vulcan, but we seemed to have lost all contact.
UHURA: Sir, I pick up no Romulan transmission, or transmission of any kind in the area.
*
SPOCK: Captain, the Romulan ship has lowered some kind of high energy pulse device into the Vulcan atmosphere. Its signal appears to be blocking our communications and transporter abilities.
*
PIKE: You've declared war against the Federation. Withdraw. I'll agree to arrange a conference with Romulan leadership at a neutral location.
*
OLSON: Oh yeah. I can't wait to kick some Romulan ass.
*
PIKE: No, no, you're confused. You've been misinformed. Romulus hasn't been destroyed. It's out there right now. You're blaming the Federation for something that hasn't happened.
NERO: It has happened! I watched it happen! I saw it happen! Don't tell me it didn't happen! And when I lost her, I promised myself retribution. And for twenty-five years, I planned my revenge against the Federation, and forgot what it was like to live a normal life. I did not forget the pain. That's the pain that every surviving Vulcan now shares. My purpose, Christopher, is to not simply avoid the destruction of the home that I love, but to create a Romulus that exists free of the Federation. You see, only then will she be truly saved. That is why I will destroy all the remaining Federation planets, starting with yours.
*
MCCOY: How the hell did they do that, by the way? Where did the Romulans get that kind of weaponry?
SPOCK: The engineering comprehension necessary to artificially create a black hole may suggest an answer. Such technology could theoretically be manipulated to create a tunnel through space-time.
MCCOY: Dammit man, I'm a doctor, not a physicist. Are you actually suggesting they're from the future?!
SPOCK: If you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.
MCCOY: How poetic.
KIRK: Then, what would an angry future Romulan want with Captain Pike?
*
KIRK: What do you know about him?
SPOCK PRIME: He is a particularly troubled Romulan. Please, allow me. It will be easier.
*
SPOCK PRIME: (voice-over) That is where I'm from, Jim. The future. The star went supernova...
(a star explodes)
SPOCK PRIME: (voice-over) ...consuming everything in its path. I promised the Romulans that I would save their planet...
*
SPOCK PRIME: (voice-over) I was en route, when the unthinkable happened. The supernova destroyed Romulus.
*
SPOCK PRIME: (voice-over) He called himself Nero. Last of the Romulan Empire.
*
KIRK: We show them compassion, it may be the only way to earn peace with Romulus. It's logic, Spock. Thought you'd like that.
SPOCK: No, not really. Not this time.
NERO: (on viewscreen) I would rather suffer the end of Romulus a thousand times. I would rather die in agony than accept assistance from you.
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It reminds me of a James Bond movie opening, "in media res" which drops the audience into the middle of a scene that's underway. It's a familiar cinematic device.
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That’s a feature, not a bug. It’s the perfect way to “adapt” a TOS episode (if so desired). Show a climax to something familiar to longtime fans but easily accessible to those who are unfamiliar with the original (thus getting such a thing out of the way early and moving on to something new). As noted above, Bond movies have been doing it for decades and it works well.
This kind of thing goes way back into Greek literature. It’s a narrative device.
I remember reading rumours Cumberbatch was going to play Gary Mitchell in Into Darkness before the release. With John Harrison just an alias according to the rumour.
Obviously this wasn't true or maybe an intentional misdirect or just a fan theory.
When the film was released I went in almost spoiler free. A friend had told me it was Khan but I didn't believe him, thought he was pulling my leg. And when it was revealed it was Khan I gave the biggest groan in the cinema.
I really liked that idea of including Gary Mitchell..
If they made it into tv series, its certainly a character the could of been included.
Obviously this wasn't true or maybe an intentional misdirect or just a fan theory.
When the film was released I went in almost spoiler free. A friend had told me it was Khan but I didn't believe him, thought he was pulling my leg. And when it was revealed it was Khan I gave the biggest groan in the cinema.
I really liked that idea of including Gary Mitchell..
If they made it into tv series, its certainly a character the could of been included.
The lack of Mitchell in a story that encompasses the entire time he was Jim's best friend is a big waste....
Would they have even met in the Kelvin-verse?
if not, it would be hilarious to have him show up down the line as a Captain or Admiral that doesn't even know Kirk, then. Alive, because he never went on the mission, because Kirk never requested him. In that world, does Dehner go all dark jedi?
The comics aren't canon, but here's how they portrayed him: https://memory-beta.fandom.com/wiki/Gary_Mitchell_(Kelvin_timeline)
Notably, he helped Kirk with schoolwork, rather than being one of his students.
Notably, he helped Kirk with schoolwork, rather than being one of his students.
It was fan theory. Production images from the Spock vs. Khan fight at the end of the movie had leaked, and they showed Cumberbatch with black hair in what appeared to be Starfleet garb. Mitchell therefore seemed like a logical assumption.
Silly Harrison; evil is for admirals.
Unless crewmembers are affected by an outside alien influence, or just plain insane.
