I don't get the Carter hate.

[Harvey]

I think Teal'c had quite a bit of development as the series went along, as did Daniel Jackson. Outside of Hammond, Carter is the least developed character in the main titles, and after eleven seasons being billed as a regular (it says a lot that I forgot her run on SGA entirely) it's just a shame.

Of course, Stargate has gone almost entirely without female writers during its tenure on television (I believe there was one who left SG-1 early in the series), so it's no surprise that the female character in the cast is the one the writers had the hardest time writing for.

 

[bigdaddy]

All I remember of Daniel is from the movie and he died several times.

 

[The Wormhole]

Of course, Stargate has gone almost entirely without female writers during its tenure on television (I believe there was one who left SG-1 early in the series), so it's no surprise that the female character in the cast is the one the writers had the hardest time writing for.

Stargate writers have a hard time writing for women? But what about the wonderful jobs they did developing such female characters like Dr. Weir, Teyla, Dr. Keller. Not to mention Chloe, TJ, Wray.

Okay, I'll stop now. Even I know when I'm taking a joke too far.

 

[bigdaddy]

Stargate writers have a hard time writing for women? But what about the wonderful jobs they did developing such female characters like Dr. Weir, Teyla, Dr. Keller. Not to mention Chloe, TJ, Wray.

Okay, I'll stop now. Even I know when I'm taking a joke too far.

If this was Gateworld, or even some of the people here, I would have thought you were serious.

The real Doctor Weir was decent, but I think that was the actress and not the writing.

 

[AJ86]

I actually think she was the worst written of the four by far. During season two she was all over the place, tree-hugger one minute, ordering torture the next and then back again. She became a utility character, a tool that was just used to deliver whatever dialogue or viewpoint they needed at that particular time. Also, endearing character =/= well written character. Keller and Teyla were far better developed than she was, and Wray is far more three-dimensional even as a supporting character. They've wasted TJ I agree especially in the first season, though what little development there has been has at least been consistent. I think the main problem they've had is crafting characters that are both endearing and three dimensional, which they only arguably achieved with Janet and Vala, and though I personally don't consider 'likeability' a prerequisite for a well written character, it certainly helps in keeping the audience interested.

 

[cultcross]

Carter started off weak, became fine for most of the 'good' bit of SG-1, and then tailed off when the series did - she became, as others have said, the Mary Sue who was good at everything.
Really the only thing that ever personally annoyed me about her was the scientist-of-all-trades thing that so many shows do. She was established as a theoretical astrophysicist. But by the end of the run, she was just an expert in everything except archaeology, because that was Daniel's thing. The cookie cutter 'scientist' character is all too common in sci-fi and is very hard to swallow.

 

[DWF]

Carter was still a role model back in the '90s right up their with Xena, Buffy, Susan Ivanova, Kira Nerys and Dana Scully. She(Carter) was a competent professional who niether asked for nor recieved special treatment from the others just because she was a woman. If anything they respected her as scientist as well as a pilot, she more than earned her rank in my mind.

 

[Skywalker]

Carter started off weak, became fine for most of the 'good' bit of SG-1, and then tailed off when the series did - she became, as others have said, the Mary Sue who was good at everything.
Really the only thing that ever personally annoyed me about her was the scientist-of-all-trades thing that so many shows do. She was established as a theoretical astrophysicist. But by the end of the run, she was just an expert in everything except archaeology, because that was Daniel's thing. The cookie cutter 'scientist' character is all too common in sci-fi and is very hard to swallow.

Don't forget that on top of her being smarter than everyone else and being an expert in every scientific field (except archeology), she also somehow managed to find time to log tons of flight hours and become an excellent pilot*, as well. Sometimes I wonder why the SGC even bothered sending anyone else besides Carter through the stargate.

*Because in the wonderful world of television, EVERYONE in the Air Force is a trained pilot. Even supposed 'special operations commandos' like O'Neill--which makes even less sense, actually, since the only such 'commandos' the Air Force has are pararescue jumpers, which O'Neill obviously was not. But that's a totally different topic.

 

[The Borgified Corpse]

Plus [Samantha Carter] was most likely on Universe too.

She was a couple times, commanding the Hammond in "Air, Part 1," & "Incursion, Part 1."

Of course, Stargate has gone almost entirely without female writers during its tenure on television (I believe there was one who left SG-1 early in the series), so it's no surprise that the female character in the cast is the one the writers had the hardest time writing for.

*Shudders with horror at flashbacks of "Emancipation"!* (What's really weird is that she also wrote the similarly themed and equally awful "Code of Honor" for Star Trek: The Next Generation's 1st season.)

Really the only thing that ever personally annoyed me about [Samantha Carter] was the scientist-of-all-trades thing that so many shows do. She was established as a theoretical astrophysicist. But by the end of the run, she was just an expert in everything except archaeology, because that was Daniel's thing. The cookie cutter 'scientist' character is all too common in sci-fi and is very hard to swallow.

Heck, in some respects Dr. McKay could be even worse since he had to develop some archaeological expertise since Atlantis didn't have a Daniel Jackson.

I was going to say "Iran hostage crisis", but...

I don't hate Samantha Carter. But I think she's always engendered a certain malaise towards her.

No but Pierre Bernard does. (Took me a bit of time to paw thru his many YouTube videos to find the right link, jeezus that guy needs a hobby or a life or something.)

Hey, if you give someone the boundless power of a Recliner of Rage on a national TV show, you shouldn't be surprised when some people abuse that power!