How did Worf end up back on the Enterprise?

[chris32482]

I always thought it was kind of lame the way Worf was just magically back on the Enterprise in Insurrection, after becomming the Federation Ambassador to Qo'nos at the end of DS9.

I assume that maybe this is discussed in the A Time To... novels? I actually haven't read any TNG novels yet. I just finished reading Fearful Symmetry (which was great, btw) after spending the last couple months reading the DS9 relaunch. So, now that I'm all caught up with that, I'm starting on the Post-Nemesis books with Death in Winter. The thing with Worf is kinda bugging me so I just thought I'd ask...

 

[KRAD]

^ I assume you mean Nemesis, since Insurrection took place while Worf was still assigned to DS9.

In any case, yes, that was covered in A Time to..., most specifically in my final volume, A Time for War, a Time for Peace.

 

[Marie1]

Although he did crop up in Insurrection too... which I have mixed feelings about. Its just so... "convenient" in Insurrection and Nemesis. I guess so people who'd only watched TNG would know...

 

[JD]

You mean DS9?

 

[chris32482]

^ I assume you mean Nemesis, since Insurrection took place while Worf was still assigned to DS9.

Oh yeah.... Holy crap now I'm even more confused! What was Worf doing on Enterprise if he was still assigned to DS9?

PS: I must confess, I haven't watched Insurrection in a very long time.

 

[Marie1]

They explain it briefly in the films... he's just kinda... "in the area, so we're borrowing him" as a reason for why he's in the films... IMHO.

 

[chris32482]

Although he did crop up in Insurrection too... which I have mixed feelings about. Its just so... "convenient" in Insurrection and Nemesis. I guess so people who'd only watched TNG would know...

It seems like the powers that be kind of just let DS9 "borrow" Worf since TNG was no longer running, but they arbitrarily put him back on the Enterprise whenever they needed to make a TNG movie, without any regards to the storyline established in DS9.

 

[Marie1]

I think developpment for Insurrection started in 97, and it came out at the end of 98, and DS9 ended in '99... someone better at ST years could figure out the timeline-ish-ness. Insurrection is set in 2375 I think.

 

[chris32482]

timeline-ish-ness.

 

[KRAD]

Although he did crop up in Insurrection too... which I have mixed feelings about. Its just so... "convenient" in Insurrection and Nemesis. I guess so people who'd only watched TNG would know...

Insurrection was the only one of the three that really screwed the pooch on that, to my mind. In First Contact, he was present because he was in command of the Defiant as part of the fleet attacking the cube. In Nemesis, it was four years after DS9 ended and, to be blunt, a lot can happen in four years.

 

[LeadHead]

I think there was a line that was never fully heard in the movie that Worf was installing a defense system on a Federation colony and wound up in the same neighborhood as the Enterprise.

I assume once he was told that Data had lost it and may have to be killed, he called Sisko and said, "I'm gonna be a few days, Starfleet may have to kill my friend!"

I'll bet they weren't too opposed to him taking some time off, being that his wife had recently died. Yes, they were at war, but Sisko was gone for 3 months, I'd image he'd get away with a week or two.

As for Nemesis, there are explanations in the books, but there were to be 2 weddings and Worf was on the Invite to both, it makes no sense for him to take another ship than the Enterprise to get there.

 

[RoJoHen]

Although he did crop up in Insurrection too... which I have mixed feelings about. Its just so... "convenient" in Insurrection and Nemesis. I guess so people who'd only watched TNG would know...

Insurrection was the only one of the three that really screwed the pooch on that, to my mind. In First Contact, he was present because he was in command of the Defiant as part of the fleet attacking the cube. In Nemesis, it was four years after DS9 ended and, to be blunt, a lot can happen in four years.

To be fair, Worf had a perfectly good explanation for being on the Enterprise. It's just that we didn't get to hear his story.

"Worf, what the hell are you doing here?" ~Picard
"I was...mumble mumble...blah blah blah..." ~Worf
"Sorry, Worf, I don't want to hear your story. I have a date with a little frog alien that's going to put a dish towel on my head." ~Picard

 

[Stevil2001]

In First Contact, he was present because he was in command of the Defiant as part of the fleet attacking the cube. In Nemesis, it was four years after DS9 ended and, to be blunt, a lot can happen in four years.

The problem with First Contact isn't that Worf is there... it's that the rest of the DS9 crew isn't there. You're telling me Sisko wouldn't take a chance to stick it at the Borg?

 

[KRAD]

The problem with First Contact isn't that Worf is there... it's that the rest of the DS9 crew isn't there. You're telling me Sisko wouldn't take a chance to stick it at the Borg?

Hmm. Somebody obviously hasn't read Enterprises of Great Pitch and Moment, the final eBook in the Slings and Arrows miniseries.

Short version: you really think the same Admiral Hayes who wouldn't let Picard within a parsec of the battle would let Sisko anywhere near it, either?

 

[captcalhoun]

my handwave for my fanfic was the Defiant was sent on a milk-run with Worf in charge and got shanghai'd into the fleet when the Borg showed up.

 

[foravalon]

Apparently, Starfleet keeps officers with the most experience on the sidelines for some reason.

 

[foravalon]

Damn, KRAD beat me to the punch, and apparently I need to read Enterprises of Great Pitch and Moment as well!

 

[KRAD]

Apparently, Starfleet keeps officers with the most experience on the sidelines for some reason.

No, Starfleet prefers not to have their biggest security risk regarding the Borg (Picard, who was compromised by the Borg and was responsible for the massacre at Wolf 359) in the middle of the battle.

As for Sisko, here's what Hayes said to him in my eBook: "You have a history with the Borg. You also have one of the greatest weapons in the Federation at your disposal, and I'd rather not have the finger of a man who lost his wife to the Borg on the firing button. The rest of your senior staff will also stay put—they've proven in the past that they'll disobey orders out of loyalty to you, and I can't afford that right now. The only exception is Worf—and that only because of his past experiences with the Borg."

 

[btflash]

he took a wrong turn at praxis.

 

[Elemental]

Although he did crop up in Insurrection too... which I have mixed feelings about. Its just so... "convenient" in Insurrection and Nemesis. I guess so people who'd only watched TNG would know...

Insurrection was the only one of the three that really screwed the pooch on that, to my mind. In First Contact, he was present because he was in command of the Defiant as part of the fleet attacking the cube. In Nemesis, it was four years after DS9 ended and, to be blunt, a lot can happen in four years.

I always thought it to be a subtle attempt at humour with Worf's longwinded explanation "well, I was doing something at the Manzar colony which led to this and then led to that..." that ends up getting overshadowed by another more necessary conversation. Basicly I took it to be the writers way of jokingly saying "yeah, we know he works on DS9 now, but this is a TNG movie, so stop worrying about needing silly explanations and just be happy he's here!" At least that movie acknowledged that he was actually not a regular part of that crew any longer. Nemesis irked me a little more because there was no on-screen explanation given for why he was suddenly back on the Enterprise (even though there was apparently that brief one-liner that ended up being cut).