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GENERATIONS had great quotes

Adagio said:
The plot holes in Generations were enormous. This movie tried to do WAY too much in the time it was given. If it had an additional hour, such as each part of the Lord of the Rings trilogy, there might have been enough time to address more of the story and fill some more plot holes.

I didn't mind that Kirk died. I liked it, how Kirk "died" on the Enterprise-B. If it was left with that, I would have been satisfied.

The plot holes were just brilliant in Gen....For one Kirk chopping wood for 79 years until Picard meets him.....then you get into the whole how can picard invaded kirks fantasy Nexus life and how can they leave the nexus in the past but not bump into picard already trying to stop Soren who already won the first time round.................yeap its head hurt time..

Or as Scotty put it....

"Brought a tear to my eye"
 
It's really too bad. The Nexus had a lot of potential. I'm not exactly the biggest fan of time travel/anomalies, but the Nexus had a lot to offer in terms of plot and theme.

Unfortunately, neither Moore or Braga are talented enough to tap into that potential.

And the best quote from the movie: "Yes! That is it! I hate this!!!" Because, you know, I was inclined to agree completely. :vulcan:
 
Haggis and Tatties said:
Adagio said:
The plot holes in Generations were enormous. This movie tried to do WAY too much in the time it was given. If it had an additional hour, such as each part of the Lord of the Rings trilogy, there might have been enough time to address more of the story and fill some more plot holes.

I didn't mind that Kirk died. I liked it, how Kirk "died" on the Enterprise-B. If it was left with that, I would have been satisfied.

The plot holes were just brilliant in Gen....For one Kirk chopping wood for 79 years until Picard meets him.....then you get into the whole how can picard invaded kirks fantasy Nexus life and how can they leave the nexus in the past but not bump into picard already trying to stop Soren who already won the first time round.................yeap its head hurt time..

Or as Scotty put it....

"Brought a tear to my eye"


Well.... I had a theory right after I saw GEN that picard never left the nexus...


That would make what we saw after he entered it, and FC and INS and NEM was all picard's life in the nexus... I've never talked about it too much because I figured it was way out there and I'd get laughed at, but it sort of explains all the plot wholes, and why the E-D is blown up in it, yet it exists in the future in All Good Things...
 
hutt359 said:
Haggis and Tatties said:
Adagio said:
The plot holes in Generations were enormous. This movie tried to do WAY too much in the time it was given. If it had an additional hour, such as each part of the Lord of the Rings trilogy, there might have been enough time to address more of the story and fill some more plot holes.

I didn't mind that Kirk died. I liked it, how Kirk "died" on the Enterprise-B. If it was left with that, I would have been satisfied.

The plot holes were just brilliant in Gen....For one Kirk chopping wood for 79 years until Picard meets him.....then you get into the whole how can picard invaded kirks fantasy Nexus life and how can they leave the nexus in the past but not bump into picard already trying to stop Soren who already won the first time round.................yeap its head hurt time..

Or as Scotty put it....

"Brought a tear to my eye"


Well.... I had a theory right after I saw GEN that picard never left the nexus...


That would make what we saw after he entered it, and FC and INS and NEM was all picard's life in the nexus... I've never talked about it too much because I figured it was way out there and I'd get laughed at, but it sort of explains all the plot wholes, and why the E-D is blown up in it, yet it exists in the future in All Good Things...

Time travel Ehh...Remember when it was simple....grab any old ship...use the sun to sling shot back in time...pick up a couple of old mammals....sling shot again and travel into the future.....drop mammals off and head home in time for a new ship and some tea...
 
Kegek said:
I agree with cardinal biggles, though, that Scotty speaking technobabble is just... wrong.

*Shudders*

"Captain, it may be possible to simulate a torpedo blast using a resonance burst from the main deflector dish."

Doohan seemed to struggle with that particular line. I don't blame him.
 
RobertScorpio said:
Actually I think the best part of the borg, as they were introduced in Qwho, was their Zombie like state. They were just an army of these, well, zombies that came after you. You could not talk to them, or negotiate. They are going to get you no matter how far you run.

Once the writers gave them a voice, it was all down hill from there. They just became another typical star trek villian who we can eventually call our friends.

Been there done that with the Klingons. But the borg? Bad move.

That's what I liked about them - none of the usual "picard stands up and makes a speech" BS works - that's fine 9/10 but the borg provided an enemy that took the characters out of their comfort zone - you couldn't talk those guys down, you couldn't appeal to their better nature - you stopped them or they stopped you.

But instead, we get some stupid queen and a lot of boring voyager episodes where they get turned into a joke (and sadly now a series of increasingly poor appearances in the books).
 
Life-forms... you tiny little little life-forms... you precious life-forms... where are you? Do-do-do-do-do-do!

Why is it Data sang in three out of four TNG films, anyway?
 
My problem with Generations comes down to one line. "And from his perspective, he just got here too." So added in post-production to explain things. Her voice changes. Ugh. I can take "assimilate this," and I can take "so you're some kind of astronauts on some kind of star trek," but I cannot sit through "he just got here too."

Probably not an exact quote. I always have to skip past that bit.
 
"Opennn sesame"

"You could say, i have a magnetic personality".

"Risk is part of our business, if you want to sit in that chair"

"Get this ***** bridge off me, you bal........(crock)"
 
It has one of my all time favorite moments - when Chekov says, about Sulu's daughter, "I was never that young", and Kirk puts his hand on his shoulder and says "no, you were younger". A moving moment between 2 characters that didn't interact much before then, and also trancends the film, as you could see Shatner saying the same thing to Koenig. I always really liked that moment.
 
Starseeker said:
My problem with Generations comes down to one line. "And from his perspective, he just got here too." So added in post-production to explain things. Her voice changes. Ugh. I can take "assimilate this," and I can take "so you're some kind of astronauts on some kind of star trek," but I cannot sit through "he just got here too."

You think that's bad? The obvious overdub that's always bothered me is Chekov explaining why they have to speak Klingon in a TUC scene because 'a Universal Translator might be recognised'. He's on the screen and it's quite obvious he's not even saying that.

Ahem.

Here's a nice quote from the movie:
"Speak for yourself, sir. I plan to live forever!" - Will Riker, paragon of humility.
 
Kegek said:
Starseeker said:
My problem with Generations comes down to one line. "And from his perspective, he just got here too." So added in post-production to explain things. Her voice changes. Ugh. I can take "assimilate this," and I can take "so you're some kind of astronauts on some kind of star trek," but I cannot sit through "he just got here too."

You think that's bad? The obvious overdub that's always bothered me is Chekov explaining why they have to speak Klingon in a TUC scene because 'a Universal Translator might be recognised'. He's on the screen and it's quite obvious he's not even saying that.

Ahem.

Here's a nice quote from the movie:
"Speak for yourself, sir. I plan to live forever!" - Will Riker, paragon of humility.

I always liked picards line which spurred that response from Riker: "Someone once told me that time was a predator that stalked us all our lives. I rather believe that time is a companion who goes with us on the journey and reminds us to cherish every moment, because it will never come again. What we leave behind is not as important as how we've lived. After all Number One, we're only mortal."
 
"This is not your bedroom."
-Picard
"That's it! I hate this. It's revolting!"
"More?"
"Please"
-Data and Guinan, I remember it this way, but was Data using contractions? I could be wrong
 
shatastrophic said:
"This is not your bedroom."
-Picard
"That's it! I hate this. It's revolting!"
"More?"
"Please"
-Data and Guinan, I remember it this way, but was Data using contractions? I could be wrong

I think you are...


And I love the RiffTrax comentary for that scene... :lol:
 
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