Spoilers General Disco Chat Thread

[Lord Garth]

Gene Himself did say Star Trek would be shit if they listened to what the fans said they wanted.

I wanted to look up a source for this quote. According to second-hand information, for anyone else curious, he would've said it at a Convention in Anaheim in 1988.

Given when this was, he was most likely referring to TNG and it was his response to die-hard fans who thought Star Trek should begin and end with TOS.

This is also the man who wouldn't stop trying to get his "Stop the Kennedy assassination" story made, so it balances out.

Plus the fact that he resisted most of the TOS Movies, and TNG became better the less he was involved.

 

[Richard S. Ta]

In the latter stages of his life, Gene’s mind was a veritable factory of shitty ideas.

We are lucky that a great deal of the nasty Ferengi Jew stereotypes fell by the wayside for example.

It should also be noted that the majority of things Gene disliked in Star Trek were things he could not personally profit from.

 

[Firebird]

It should also be noted that the majority of things Gene disliked in Star Trek were things he could not personally profit from.

This is really why early TNG shied away from making overt references to TOS. Not because he was trying to built out the universe, but because his first wife got part of the royalties for the old show in the divorce. If Gene didn't reference it, he wouldn't have to split up the profits.

 

[Turtletrekker]

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[at Quark's]

Just watched the S5 episodes.

There are many scenes where they're walking out of the room they were in, or through corridors, and then transport (e.g. to the bridge) (I mean without a sudden emergency coming up that changes the situation).

So, why were they walking in the first place if they were going to transport to their location anyway?

 

[Quantum21]

Just watched the S5 episodes.

There are many scenes where they're walking out of the room they were in, or through corridors, and then transport (e.g. to the bridge) (I mean without a sudden emergency coming up that changes the situation).

So, why were they walking in the first place if they were going to transport to their location anyway?

You can't look at things just by transporting in. There's a reason also why they don't just transport every 50 feet on an away team mission.

 

[The Wormhole]

So, why were they walking in the first place if they were going to transport to their location anyway?

So that scene could happen.

 

[fireproof78]

Just watched the S5 episodes.

There are many scenes where they're walking out of the room they were in, or through corridors, and then transport (e.g. to the bridge) (I mean without a sudden emergency coming up that changes the situation).

So, why were they walking in the first place if they were going to transport to their location anyway?

Momentum. I would do that all the time.

"On your left"

 

[Firebird]

So that scene could happen.

The Aaron Sorkin Effect.

 

[Tuskin38]

‘Star Trek: Discovery’ Was Denied 2-Hour Finale Movie, Says Sonequa Martin-Green

At Trek Talks 4, the 'Discovery' cast talked about the show's finale and David Ajala confessed he still can't watch it.

trekmovie.com

 

[Farscape One]

The format of DISCO, being season long arcs, wasn't really conducive for a two-hour finale. (And I doubt we'll get another one in the franchise again.)

Besides, with that tacked on ending, the finale became the length of a double episode finale. So it really did get it, anyway. DISCO is honestly lucky it got that, considering production wrapped months prior to that epilogue being filmed.

 

[Tomalak]

Yeah, I'm not quite sure if they needed more time. Was there much more story to tell or many unresolved arcs?

 

[The Wormhole]

From the sounds of it, this hypothetical two hour finale movie would have been an extended version of the episode's epilogue, which itself was derived from the plans for a potential sixth season.

Were it me, I'd have left the epilogue out of it completely, The finale as is without it works fine as a series finale, and that scene with Michael and Book is perfect as the final scene of the series, even if that wasn't the intent. It might mean Calypso would never have been addressed, but I could live with that.

 

[Firebird]

It might mean Calypso would never have been addressed, but I could live with that.

The tie-in to Calypso drug down what was an 8/10 finale for me to a 6. To play connect-the-dots right before closing the door was unnecessary.

The self-congratulatory everyone-together-on-the-bridge flashback fell a bit flat, too. Since we never really knew most of these people, it was Disco being Disco with heavy-handed indicators to the audience that we're supposed to care.

 

[fireproof78]

Since we never really knew most of these people, it was Disco being Disco with heavy-handed indicators to the audience that we're supposed to care.

Wait, we didn't?

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

Sounds like a good topic for a poll!

The catch is that people have to be able to name 4 of them before they can vote 'yes'.

 

[fireproof78]

Sounds like a good topic for a poll!

The catch is that people have to be able to name 4 of them before they can vote 'yes'.

Done.

 

[eschaton]

I have mixed feelings on the idea of a two-hour, post Season 5 finale. I thought the Calypso tie-in was stupid, and the congratulatory bridge hug scene was treacle (wondered for a second if Michael was stroking out in the chair and hallucinating before she died). That said, the quietness of the first scene with an aged Michael/Book at home was very much appreciated. I really wish we had more of that sort of pace across Discovery.

That said, I'm guessing if they got the finale they wanted, they wouldn't do a time skip (expensive to do old-age makeup for everyone) and would have done a truncated version of their Season 6 idea. Which might have worked out good, considering the last several seasons of Discovery suffered by trying to stretch out two episodes of story across ten.

Except linking up to Calypso was so goddamned stupid.

**sigh**

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

It wasn't a bad idea to link to Calypso, especially as it pulls the story firmly into continuity. But the way they did it wasn't great! They didn't explain a damn thing, just made the situation weirder.

 

[Lord Garth]

It wasn't a bad idea to link to Calypso, especially as it pulls the story firmly into continuity. But the way they did it wasn't great! They didn't explain a damn thing, just made the situation weirder.

Exactly why I think an added two-hour finale would've helped.

I've given up on the idea of a follow-up TV Movie, given what we know now, but I'm still holding out hope for an eventual follow-up in print media.