For All Mankind Trailer - Apple TV- SPOILER

[Owain Taggart]

iTunes is being discontinued.

There seems to be a lot of misinformation about this. From what I can tell according to the BBC, the PC version of iTunes will continue to exist for the time being as it wouldn't make sense to split it up. It makes more sense within the context of phone apps ala Facebook & Messenger. This just gets neglected to be mentioned by most news outlets or gets lost among the noise.

PC version of iTunes is not going away, folks! Not anytime soon.

iTunes will remain unchanged on Windows platforms, and downloads will still be available in a sidebar on the Apple Music app for Macs.

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-48501890

 

[The Nth Doctor]

PC version of iTunes is not going away, folks! Not anytime soon.

Rats!

 

[Allyn Gibson]

Not related to the series directly, but of potential interest given the series' internal history, Air & Space Magazine just posted an article on why the Soviets "lost" the Space Race, a combination of late decision-making, key deaths, and hardware failures.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Yeah I heard that. I just hope that I do not loose all my movies, TV shows and Music that I paid for.

No, you won't.

You will still have access to everything that you have purchased, you'll just use a different app to do so.

For instance, to listen to your purchased music, you'll use the Music app; for TV shows and movies, you'll use the TV app.

And, AFAIK, none of this will require a subscription to Apple Music. (And by that I mean "Apple Music the subscription service", not - as the article I just linked to mentions - "Apple Music the new app called MUSIC that comes with macOS Catalina")

 

[Lakenheath 72]

I was surprised to see females in Mission Control. I have seen footage of Mission Control from those days, from photos and from the recent documentary Apollo 11. It was a male dominated room.

I am not sure that even if the Russians were successful in landing humans on moon that the American people would be behind a robust space program. There were many who were against the program for various reasons. It would be a succession of big events to keep them interested, and when that big event happen and until the next big event, the American public would became indifferent and apathetic. NASA was paying for television coverage for missions after Apollo 11, becaue they weren't watching and the big three networks needed compensation for broadcasting the coverage in lieu of normal programming.

 

[Allyn Gibson]

I am not sure that even if the Russians were successful in landing humans on moon that the American people would be behind a robust space program. There were many who were against the program for various reasons. It would be a succession of big events to keep them interested, and when that big event happen and until the next big event, the American public would became indifferent and apathetic. NASA was paying for television coverage for missions after Apollo 11, becaue they weren't watching and the big three networks needed compensation for broadcasting the coverage in lieu of normal programming.

As I mentioned upthread, that's one of my issues with the premise, too.

Unless...

The Soviets planned a test launch of the N-1 in early July 1969. In our history, it was supposed to send an unmanned probe into lunar orbit, but it blew up on the pad. What if that flight were not only successful, but it also carried a Soyuz and the LK lander instead of the Zond? And what if American intelligence totally dropped the ball on this, thinking that it was simply another unmanned test? Imagine that scenario -- the United States thinks they have the race to the moon won, Apollo 11's landing is a foregone conclusion, and then, three weeks before, the Soviets launch a secret manned moon mission (which they had been suspected of doing in the past, which was one reason for Apollo 8) and Alexei Leonov lands on the moon.

I'm a little skeptical that Leonov gets back to Earth -- the Soviet's planned mission profile was nuts, involving spacewalks instead of docking -- but in that scenario, perhaps for a brief period of time the United States' wounded pride would result in pouring more money and effort into the space program. I don't see that surge in interest lasting, however. Perhaps the Apollo 11 mission still goes, only the lander fails on descent and Armstrong and Aldrin never return home, and now the Moon is seen as sacred American ground or some such.

 

[publiusr]

I might have it that Paperclip got Helmut Gröttrup, but the Russians got von Braun. He bridges the gulf between Korlev and Glushko. The N-1 now IS the Saturn V-- or rather, the C-8.
http://www.astronautix.com/s/saturnc-8.html

Direct ascent is chosen after all.

The United States responds with nuclear pulse Orion

 

[JD]

Looks cool, but I don't think astronaut dramas are very popular on this board. I don't think hardly anyone here bothered to watch The First.

I'm a big fan of National Georgraphic's Mars.

 

[Marc]

I'm interested (though, as some others above have said, it'll have to wait until it's available on something else), and I've tried to think through some possible points of departure for the alt-history in the last day (Korolev doesn't die? The N-1 rocket works? The Soviets decide to pursue the UR-700 instead?), but I'm skeptical of what trailer shows follows from Alexei Leonov walking on the moon. Just thinking about the political realities of the Apollo program and how quickly the United States' manned space program was wound down after Apollo 11, a far likelier outcome would be assigning blame for "who lost us the moon?" than "let's ramp up the space program." The Right Stuff ethos in the trailer is charming, but it also strikes me as naive for the early 1970s.

Yes those situations would have helped the Russians, but the U.S space program could also have had a big set back.

For example what if the Apollo 1 fire had occurred while the capsule was in orbit? It would have taken NASA much longer to work out the cause (if ever).

take 23 or 24 months between Apollo 1 and Apollo 7 instead of the the 20 that happened in our reality and everything slips back so Apollo11 doesn't launch in July 1969.

 

[Push The Button]

Just binged the first three episodes, I’m really enjoying it.

 

[theenglish]

It seems to me that this is some kind of attempt to create a story similar to The Calculating Stars. Which makes me wonder if the Nebula prize winner may be in production somewhere (Netflix?) and Apple is trying to cash in first. Nothing on Apple so far has really impressed me enough to want to subscribe.

As for the discussion about iTunes etc, as I understand it not much is changing other than the names of the programs/apps you use to access the content. You will still be able to purchase content and all content you have purchased will still be available. MY PROBLEM with Apple is that material I purchased when living overseas is not transferable to other countries. So, I can log in to my Latin American account and see stuff I bought there, or transfer to the African store, or my Canadian store where I am now--but I can't unite all those purchases under a single login. WTF?

 

[FPAlpha]

Saw the first episode and it is a nice take on alternate history, will be definitely watching to see how it develops.

 

[jbohn]

I'm quite liking this series. 4 episodes in so far. I'm surprised there's not more discussion here.

 

[ITDUDE]

I'm quite liking this series. 4 episodes in so far. I'm surprised there's not more discussion here.

AppleTV is live? I didn't even know it.

 

[Guy Gardener]

I remember Von Braun on Timeless.

"This is who I have to work with to get to the moon."

 

[Tuskin38]

i've been enjoying it as well

 

[The Nth Doctor]

I've been enjoying it, too.

However, considering the significance of her role, I'm puzzled as to why Sonya Walger isn't a cast member.

 

[ISS-Magnum]

Yep, one of the best Space Science Fiction shows if our time.

 

[jbohn]

Wow, this week's episode was also very good. I was glued to my seat when all the moon stuff was happening. And it did not end how I thought it would.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Same here. I was convinced Molly was going to die as soon as she talked herself into going down the crater. Between the fact Walger' is bizarrely not part of the main cast and the horrible dream Molly's husband had, it seemed like a guarantee.

However, I'm thrilled I was wrong. Made for a highly tense sequence with a fantastic ending.

That said, I was a little disappointed that the show decided to jump two years, if only because we don't get to see Apollo 15 return home and reunite with their families. After the ringer the viewers went through in this episode, we deserved to have seen that reunion. Also, it's a shame that we don't get to see the development of the Jamestown Base mission and instead jumping straight to its success.