I don't remember Kirk crying every week on TOS. Star Trek Discovery seasons 3 to 5 came across more like TNG, with maybe some aspects of DS9 character wise.
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I don't remember Burnham crying every week either. And Kirk usually shouted or was introspective.
I meant the focus on two main characters style in TOS.
OK, this "crying every week" is bullshit. Burnham was allowed to have emotions which, for me, was very honest. Can we just forget this massive exaggeration?
"Crying every week" may not be literally true, but the crying was excessive. Especially in season 2 and the end of season 4.
13 minute compilation of Michael Burnham crying in S1-S5:
Just another example of the over melodramatic nature of the show.
The show is cancelled and done with, and we're STILL hung up on the crying??
IDIC except crying, amiright?
13 minutes out of approx 50 hours in a show where real-life emotions were central to the story. As an old man whose emotions are fully developed, I loved it. I’m sorry you (and others) couldn’t.
Less than 1%. Oh, the melodrama!
Certain things have to be spaced out a bit or else they become tired and unwelcome. I rewatched Enterprise recently and I was thoroughly sick of phaser battles by the end.
I wouldn't say that there's anything wrong with the heroic lead character crying, or even that Discovery has too much crying overall...
But in season 2 specifically, Burnham's moments of extreme emotional distress became as much of a running joke as Kenny dying in South Park. For me at least. The most emotional scenes in the season eventually just stopped working for me because I couldn't take them seriously anymore.
Though honestly I still liked Discovery's season 2 more than Strange New Worlds' second year. Just because a season has a flaw, doesn't mean it's terrible.
I wouldn't say that there's anything wrong with the heroic lead character crying, or even that Discovery has too much crying overall...
But in season 2 specifically, Burnham's moments of extreme emotional distress became as much of a running joke as Kenny dying in South Park. For me at least. The most emotional scenes in the season eventually just stopped working for me because I couldn't take them seriously anymore.
Though honestly I still liked Discovery's season 2 more than Strange New Worlds' second year. Just because a season has a flaw, doesn't mean it's terrible.
I'm throughly over crying being called a flaw. Might as well call Kirk's speeches a flaw, McCoy's irritation a flaw.
It's an emotion and part of the human experience. Rewatched part of Season 3 today and appreciated the themes of togetherness all the more. The crew suffers and needs that outlet.
It's an emotion and part of the human experience. Rewatched part of Season 3 today and appreciated the themes of togetherness all the more. The crew suffers and needs that outlet.
Repetition is the flaw.
It's fine if it's something that's supposed to be routine, like the ship entering orbit, the crew beaming down to a planet, Kirk making a captain's log, you can show them every time and it never gets old. But (using my current favourite series as an example) if the hero ship gets heavily damaged by a superior force, only to be bailed out by the arrival of another ship, FOUR BLOODY EPISODES IN A ROW, then that that doesn't work for me. I'm bored of that now, learn a new trick.
Military decorum.
Not that STD S2 was brimming with it, but there was some semblance of it.
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Missing a "I like neither" option...
I like Discovery. So far I freaking love SNW. Especially season two. Pretty much every ep of S2 I'd score at least an 8. Some a 10. It's been solidly excellent this season
I didn't see a point, why would someone be in this subforum if they disliked the show?
The latest topics trend on the landing page... plus it's not like there aren't people that dislike PICARD on that show's sub...
also, why then have "I like Discovery but not SNW" as an option?
I stopped kidding myself. I watched and defended Disco for 5 seasons but I started to hate it. SNW is better due to its episodic nature. Trek does better that way. DS9 and later ENT style of heavier continuity works great too, but the 10 episode movie just doesn't work most of the time for Trek. Too much filler content that barely moves the story but enough story content that you know that is the main dish. I hope Academy learns from this.
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