A Modest Proposal To End The Fandom Feud Forever

[CorporalCaptain]

I've made it 24 minutes through TSWHS. Recharging for my attempt of the next 24, soon.

Recently, I made a small list of things that were good about it.

1. The Boba Fett cartoon was fun though silly. TSWHS is noteworthy for introducing Boba Fett in The Story of the Faithful Wookiee.
2. Seeing the justifiably taken out outtakes from the original film was interesting from the standpoint of completionism.
3. The Wookiee planet realized in retrospect to be a prototype of Endor was also noteworthy.
4. The Harvey Korman Julia Child parody was hilarious.

I found a fifth one:

5. TSWHS had, historically, the first on-screen credit for James Earl Jones as the voice of Darth Vader.

More to follow, if it follows.

 

[The Borgified Corpse]

I think that means you might have skipped the years in which ever channel seemed to show it. I guess nobody own the rights or something because everyone seemed to be able to play it if I am remembering the 80's right. Did you grow up during the NBC days when it would air just once a year on NBC around Christmas? I'm not even sure who owns it right now or if any streaming service has it.

NBC still owns the broadcast rights and usually shows it 2 or 3 times a year, once on Thanksgiving weekend and again in December closer to Christmas. They don't edit it but they do cram it full of lengthy commercial breaks to make a 2 hour 10 minute film stretch out to a 3 hour time slot.

I'm not sure about streaming.

I think it's a pretty good movie. It's one of those where I discover something new about it every time I watch it. It's got a lot of great, layered performances.

And I love Jimmy Stewart's comedy skills in this scene...

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I'm a PT fan. I'm also a fan of the OT and the Disney stand alone films. "AOTC" is one of my top two Star Wars movies, along with "TESB". And I realize that many fans hate to admit this, but there are many other fans of "AOTC".

I actually rank Attack of the Clones as my 2nd favorite Star Wars film, right behind Revenge of the Sith. AOTC lovers of the world unite!

Portman's outfits

As I understand it, that black dress in the fireplace scene was designed by Lucas himself. All I can say is, "Thank you, George!"

 

[JD]

AoTC is one of my favorites too. The Anakin/Padme romance is........ not great, but I really enjoy the rest of it.

 

[Reverend]

I've been gradually reading through the Rinzler 'Making of' books for a while now and I came across something in the early chapters of the first one that in a roundabout way, got me thinking about AotC.

It's fairly well known that back when Lucas was pitching SW to the various studios (and I think also later on during the promotional cycle), he'd say that it would be "like a silent movie". Not literally of course, just that the way he shot it, the images and the music tells tell the story more than the dialogue. I've heard that mentioned many times and pondered what it would be like to watch SW as a "silent" movie (yes, real silent movies did have musical accompaniment.)

But recently it occurred to me that it would be far more interesting to watch the PT (and especially AotC) like that; with the dialogue and sound effects track removed, leaving only the score (and perhaps some of the diegetic music) against the images.

Sure, make all the terrible dialogue cracks you like, but I honestly think part of the reason that (for example) the Padme/Anakin romance scenes don't work is because they weren't really designed for the dialogue, it was designed for the scene.
Compounded by the lacklustre script, the actors' performances just fell flat with very little chemistry.
Christensen to his credit seemed to realise he was in a melodrama and just went for it, though for one reason or another, Portman didn't seem to have gotten that memo, hence the weird unevenness of their interactions. Take out the dialogue track and I think suddenly it will start to work as it was probably envisioned by Lucas. Still cheesy and melodramatic as all hell, but very much in-keeping the the style and visual language of the old classic silent movies and the adventure serials from the 30's & 40's.

 

[Agony_Boothb]

The clear answer to ending fandom feud (great name for a game show btw) is clearly to re-release Caravan of Courage and Battle for Endor as special editions.

 

[Ithekro]

Oh dear. Box set of the Ewok TV movies with the Holiday Special as a booby prize.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

How about a campaign for full releases of Droids and Ewoks on home video?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_Droids
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ewoks_(TV_series)

 

[Jayson1]

If we want to cut through the hassle we could just celebrate "Spaceballs" the 4th best "Star Wars" movie, eve after the Classic Trilogy.

Jason

 

[Agony_Boothb]

How about a campaign for full releases of Droids and Ewoks on home video?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_Droids
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ewoks_(TV_series)

YES PLEASE

 

[Turtletrekker]

It's worth noting that today is the 40th anniversary of the Star Wars holiday special. We in this thread should have planned a simultaneous rewatch via YouTube on this date, and posted our comments live as we watched it.

 

[JD]

How about a campaign for full releases of Droids and Ewoks on home video?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_Droids
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ewoks_(TV_series)

I would honestly like to this happen.
I watched one or two episode of Droids a while back, and it actually was pretty good.
Haven't seen any of Ewoks though.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

I've made it 24 minutes through TSWHS. Recharging for my attempt of the next 24, soon.

Recently, I made a small list of things that were good about it.

1. The Boba Fett cartoon was fun though silly. TSWHS is noteworthy for introducing Boba Fett in The Story of the Faithful Wookiee.
2. Seeing the justifiably taken out outtakes from the original film was interesting from the standpoint of completionism.
3. The Wookiee planet realized in retrospect to be a prototype of Endor was also noteworthy.
4. The Harvey Korman Julia Child parody was hilarious.

I found a fifth one:

5. TSWHS had, historically, the first on-screen credit for James Earl Jones as the voice of Darth Vader.

More to follow, if it follows.

6. The Story of the Faithful Wookiee introduces the hatch on the Falcon through which Lando rescues Luke in TESB.

 

[Qonundrum]

It will!

"The Doctor Who Holiday Special"! Has a nice ring to it, let's see where this goes:

Starring TryingToBea Art! and Art Carnoy! And Jefferson Multidimensional Spaceship! And Lumpy the Wookatmee from planet Kash-Inn,Achoo! And Diahann (Solo) Carrollprono!

It may have gotten high ratings because it was shiny new Star Wars but, whew, it was bad. Some would still give it a 10/10 or higher, though!

I have never seen this delight you speak of. The Star Wars Holiday Special.

I'm in.

You've simply got to see it! Seeing Jefferson Starship as a magenta video treatment affair and it's nowhere near 1985 yet and has a visual double entendre with that overly sized microphone is simply not to be missed. Especially if you like big magenta halo microphones. Or the tabletop holograms that surely inspired the late-80s home computer game "Battle Chess". Or the cartoon where everyone is so wide-eyed they're all on some drug. Or that song at the end, where the actors probably HAD to be high in order to act their way convincingly though it. Or the deleted scenes from the 1977 movie, which didn't become "Episode IV" until its first re-release a few years later (1980, 81?). Bea Arthur's bar was the best segment, IMHO. Just don't drink liquids while watching Lumpy turn on the VR machine/hairdryer where Diahann Carroll's introduction sells precisely the oddest unintentional meaning. But I'm sure adults who were still watching in 1978 were laughing their socks off with the kiddies wondering what was so exciting as it's just someone on screen talking and singing something far more bland than anything they could score on Sesame Street... Even I sat through it. Well, most of it, it really does blow chunks...

 

[ichab]

I dont hate people for their movie choices. ROTS is my favorites of the prequals because that's the part of the backstory I wanted to see. I still enjoy watching it. The other two I can do without, but if other people love those movies more power to them. I just recently popped in VAN HELSING and enjoyed it as much as I did when I first saw it, and that movie has a very low score on rotten tomatoes. Watch what you like and to hell with what other people think.

Far as the Holiday Special goes.......na. Saw some clips years ago and that was all I needed to see.

 

[Trekkin]

I enjoy the hell out of Van Helsing.

I mean, it has a lot wrong with it. No one need line up to tell me that. But it scratches a lot of my itches.

I have more trouble with The Holiday Special. I’ve never been much for ‘so bad it’s good’ (when I like a ‘bad’ movie, its not just because I can laugh at it,) so it’s mostly just unpleasant.

Being unbearably long doesn’t help.

 

[JD]

I dont hate people for their movie choices. ROTS is my favorites of the prequals because that's the part of the backstory I wanted to see. I still enjoy watching it. The other two I can do without, but if other people love those movies more power to them. I just recently popped in VAN HELSING and enjoyed it as much as I did when I first saw it, and that movie has a very low score on rotten tomatoes. Watch what you like and to hell with what other people think.

Far as the Holiday Special goes.......na. Saw some clips years ago and that was all I needed to see.

I can relate, I love the Pirates of the Caribbean sequels and the second and third Matrix movies.