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6x02 Day of the Moon (Grading/Discussion) (SPOILERS!!)

How dost thou rate the Doctor's adventure?


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Agreeing with a possible mis-direction on the Silents/Silence. Perhaps they keep the Earth safe from another Big Bad, and the Doctor hoses that by his actions to get rid of them
 
Yep ... I'm loving this idea. The Doctor has made one huge mistake by interfering with a symbiotic relationship.
 
I'm hoping by the end of the series I'll be looking back at this two parter and going
"wow!" but at the moment I'm not so sure.

I think they've forgotten a lot that happened to them during those 3 months. Once those memories come flooding back it should get interesting.


Ooh, meant to add, how could the girl have called Nixon and said the spaceman was going to eat her when she needed the space suit to make the call, so surely the spaceman would have eaten her already?

It was a trap - she was probably already in the suit the entire time. The phone line had been cut so she couldn't have called from there anyway.
 
I dont think we can say its a symbiotic relationship without knowing what the Silents are up to. Their purpose if undefined. They manipulate man but to what end? Do they need man to advance enough so they can build a deep space craft so they can leave? If so and having been here for thousands of years they really are pretty bad at the manipulation thing. Of course a certain time lord is watching out for us.
 
I dont think we can say its a symbiotic relationship without knowing what the Silents are up to. Their purpose if undefined. They manipulate man but to what end? Do they need man to advance enough so they can build a deep space craft so they can leave? If so and having been here for thousands of years they really are pretty bad at the manipulation thing. Of course a certain time lord is watching out for us.

Ah, sorry about that! I'm not saying the relationship between humans and Silence *was* symbiotic. I just like the idea that the Doctor has made a huge mistake and now needs to fix it. You're right that we don't know nearly enough about the Silence to come to any conclusions about them.

Why did the Doctor think it was a good idea to get rid of them? Just because they were so scary? With the exception of killing Joy and the terrible condition they'd reduced Renfrew to in the orphanage, we saw no signs of them being especially harmful to the human race.

And it's important to note, Amy wouldn't remember to tell anyone about what happened to Joy.

Hopefully, we'll learn more about the Silence as the season progresses and either understand the Doctor's motivations better or watch as he realizes what a terrible thing he's done.

Big Bad = Omega .. My theory and im sticking to it right or wrong.

:bolian: I admire your courage in your convictions. :bolian:

Seriously, though, I'd be up for some Omega action. Make it interesting, though!
 
I'm really wanting the White and Black Guardian to show up. Another modern storyline dealing with them would be cool.
 
Why did the Doctor think it was a good idea to get rid of them? Just because they were so scary? With the exception of killing Joy and the terrible condition they'd reduced Renfrew to in the orphanage, we saw no signs of them being especially harmful to the human race.

Well, to be fair, the Silence themselves thought that they were an enemy of the human race. That video wasn't reedited or anything. It was a Silent giving his frank, uncoerced opinion that if Canton Delaware had a brain in his head, he would've shot his mouthless face off first chance he got.
 
It still doesn't make any sense. If they hated humanity so much, and just wanted to use them as slave labor, why allow them to grow so powerful? We're talking hundreds of thousands of years here, all spent leading humanity down the road to technological advancement.

What the hell did they have to gain from that? And why the Hell did they need them to develop a space suit to begin with?

'Course, one has to ask where the Time Lords originally got the technology to make the TARDISes function in a similar if somewhat limited fashion. I noticed Prisoner Zero has a similar ability as well.
 
If we're talking hundreds of thousands of years, they were pisspoor at technologically advancing humans. That bit of the tale is best left unexamined, along with why the Doctor never encountered them before.
 
If we're talking hundreds of thousands of years, they were pisspoor at technologically advancing humans.
:lol: True. They did say that they'd been around since the invention of the wheel, so that would suggest about 5,000 to 6,000 years. Arguably, though, that's still piss-poor. Whay hasn't human technological development been optimal over the last several thousand years? Why the dark ages, for instance? Perhaps the Silents simply weren't numerous enough.

As for the Doctor never encountering them, perhaps they kept well-hidden or he did but we just didn't see it.
 
Maybe humanity kept forgetting what the Silents told them to do? And how is their 'forget-me' power supposed to work on the blind?
 
Well, to be fair, the Silence themselves thought that they were an enemy of the human race. That video wasn't reedited or anything. It was a Silent giving his frank, uncoerced opinion that if Canton Delaware had a brain in his head, he would've shot his mouthless face off first chance he got.

Does one random member of a species speak for them all?

Why should their decendants face death at the hands of humans for actions they had no part in?

Why is it OK for the Doctor to brainwash the human race into commiting genocide against them when, for example, he'll go out of his way to stop humans defending themselves against the Silurians, who on the evidence presented on-screen have done far worse things than the Silence have?
 
They're bad people (species). They've been bad (by their own admission) since before we were here. They manipulate us. Benign subjagation is still subjagation.
 
It is intesting to ponder the idea that the Silence was at least part of what has driven us as a species, it may well explain why we have acheived very little after going to the moon.
 
It is intesting to ponder the idea that the Silence was at least part of what has driven us as a species, it may well explain why we have acheived very little after going to the moon.

The fact that I'm typing this on a laptop using wireless internet kind of suggests we've at least had a few accomplishments after landing on the moon.

BTW, it was said they've driven human development, but it wasn't said that they've positively driven human development. Maybe they've actually held us back and progress either happened only in rare cases they needed something or in spite of their manipulation.
 
Also, given that there are a number of questions remaining about the Silents and were seeing things not yet wrapped up, we may find the Doctor coming to regret the action and acting to change the outcome. The spacesuit may be part of a time travel solution to prevent the order by a future Doctor.
 
If we're talking hundreds of thousands of years, they were pisspoor at technologically advancing humans.
:lol: True. They did say that they'd been around since the invention of the wheel, so that would suggest about 5,000 to 6,000 years.
...and fire. Hence hundreds of thousands.

Arguably, though, that's still piss-poor. Whay hasn't human technological development been optimal over the last several thousand years? Why the dark ages, for instance? Perhaps the Silents simply weren't numerous enough.
A lack of numbers is about the only thing that makes sense, assuming what they said is true. The question is why do they have a demi-TARDIS wired to the entire planet now, and why are they building one in the first place?

As for the Doctor never encountering them, perhaps they kept well-hidden or he did but we just didn't see it.
Or, you know, forgot since that's the whole point of the race. Just like he'll likely completely forget about this entire adventure a few years down the line. Hell, the TARDIS might be chock-full of information about them if he bothered to look it up.
 
It is intesting to ponder the idea that the Silence was at least part of what has driven us as a species, it may well explain why we have acheived very little after going to the moon.

The fact that I'm typing this on a laptop using wireless internet kind of suggests we've at least had a few accomplishments after landing on the moon.

BTW, it was said they've driven human development, but it wasn't said that they've positively driven human development. Maybe they've actually held us back and progress either happened only in rare cases they needed something or in spite of their manipulation.
I did mean in terms of space travel, but your point is taken.
 
When's the last time you saw a heroic depiction of Richard Nixon?:eek: (although Watergate aside he did quite a lot of good things). Mark Shepherd equally good as he was on Dollhouse and BSG

Seems a little ruthless of the Doc to have everyone kill the silence on sight?

Now, do we suspect there's some form of link between Ben and Glory?
 
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