Turtlenecks
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Yep!Agreed!
Also... Is that a Trill?
Agreed!
Also... Is that a Trill?
Sure was. Cool factor 10.
Common sense. They already have the uniforms made and that's what is associated with the Enterprise.
the turtlenecks will be back and rendered in CGI just like those singing flowers on Talos.
You know those were real flowers, right?
Does that mean a mock turtleneck is made from mock turtles?
I thought they were hunted to extinction in order to make mock turtle soup?
The future is faux.
Synthasoup.
Not to be mistaken with soup made from Synths.
Agreed!
Also... Is that a Trill?
Yes. Her name is Sarah... which doesn't sound like a Trill name to me. Better than Naáshala Kunamadéstifee, I suppose.
Personally I'd prefer Naáshala Kunamadéstifee
But they seem to have this weird thing about sometimes giving aliens human names in New Trek, like Linus, the Saurian officer onboard Discovery.
Maybe in the 23rd century some aliens like to adopt a "human" name when dealing with humans?
Dax is a human name (French) As are Ezri (Hebrew), Jadzia (Polish), Curzon. (Anglo-Norman), Tobin (Irish) and Joran (Scandinavian) Kira has multiple human origins. Nerys is a Welsh name. Quark is a Slavic word. Odo is German. And that's just Deep Space Nine!Personally I'd prefer Naáshala Kunamadéstifee
But they seem to have this weird thing about sometimes giving aliens human names in New Trek, like Linus, the Saurian officer onboard Discovery.
Maybe in the 23rd century some aliens like to adopt a "human" name when dealing with humans?
And generally those are names that are either little known to an ENglish speaking audience, or that are even unknown/very rare in their country of origin.
It's not nearly the same as naming a Trill "Sarah" and a Saurian "Linus". You know, that thing called nuance?
True, but I'm willing to bet the writers heard of them. Human is human. Spock wasn't exactly a little known name in 1964. Since every other mom in America since 1946 had Dr. Benjamin Spock's baby book on their nightstand.
I'm fine with "Linus" because I assume that his native Saurian name is an untranslatable mess of clicks and hisses.
Sarah seems too average, especially since we should assume that the Trill in the 2250s are fairly new on the scene (i.e. she probably doesn't have a human grandmother or something). If her name was Sera or Seirraah it might be more palatable as an alien name.
Dr. Spock's name comes from a misspelling of the Dutch name Spaak from one of his direct ancestors. It's a very rare variant. I've always assumed that Mr. Spock was actually named for the Human Doctor by Amanda, and he was teased by other Vulcans for having such a human name.
True, but it doesn't really matter one bit where the writers got the name from, as long as it sounds alien to most of their primary audience. That's what's important.
And Ezri or Jadzia definitely sound more "alien" to most viewers than "Sarah", which is an incredibly common name in the vast majority of Western cultures.
And with the large number of names in human languages I wouldn't completely disregard the posibility put some coincidences
I would not say that in every instance. With Odo for example, I find it very possible that whoever created it had never heard of the extremely obscure, very dated German name, but rather just strung two vowels and a consonant together and thought it was an original creation. I'm originally from Germany and until this conversation I had never even heard of "Odo" being used as a real world name, because it hasn't been a common name for centuries by what I could find out via Google.
Yeah I assume that's the reason he's named Linus.
And yes I agree the "Sarah" is pretty annoying and that Sera, Zera, Cera, Carah or any such variation owuld have helped.
Or if they had added an additional sound to create something like: Saral. Saran, Saram etc.
But writers are often readers. Readers of fiction, history and other forms of non-fiction. That's why Trek is full of classical and biblical derived names. Names can come from a variety of sources. Ferengi is derived from anArabic word meaning "foreigner". I just read that originally Odo was to be called "Otto" a name related to Odo. Berman was the one who changed it. Berman was well traveled in his preTrek role a a documentary producer. So I wouldn't be suprised if he had ran across the name in his travels.
So am I (and I'm sure so are you) and I have never heard of the name Odo before. Being well-read still doesn't mean that you know the entirety of all of humanity's collective vocabulary. Coincidences can happen.
Now see "Otto" is a much more common name in Germany, still very much in use during the 20th and 21st century and I do know of Americans and American characters in fiction who have that name.
Probably it was deemed *too* common because of that. And since Odo is related to Otto it would probably have been as easy as to look up variants in a name lexicon, I suppose, leading to Odo. That indeed does make sense.
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