on the enterprise to show more parts of the ship, or even a proto holodeck that Roddenberry had mentioned in the making of star trek, that eventually ended up in the animated series?
would a longer run have had producers build more sets
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Only if Paramount upped it's portion of the show's budget. In the third season, Paramount slashed its share in comparison to the licensing fee NBC paid of TOS. Because as a show stays on the air longer, the cast costs (i.e. pay) go up. So more of the budget gets spent on paying the regulars. So if the overall budget doesn't grow then there isn't any available money for new sets.
But that's just my half-assed educated guess. I leave it to more knowledgable hands to comment further.
Honestly, they did such a good job redressing existing sets (the armory, environmental engineering, etc.) that I never felt that much was missing. Perhaps a cargo transporter or the bowling alley. I thought Star Trek Continues did well with the proto-holodeck.
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The show added new sets in every season, be it the Emergency Manual Monitor or Auxiliary Control or rec room/botanical room/whatever. Many of the sets were "swing" and could be disassembled until needed, so stage space wasn't necessarily an issue. So sure, they'd probably have built another set or two, but what that might be would depend on the scripts, and since there weren't any, there's no way of knowing.
What was the armory a re-dress of? A portion of engineering?
Not much of a set...single red inner door with a red alert light on one side are the only clues. Two possible choices: 1. I think it was a "wild set" built behind the door between Kirk's Office/Quarter door and the corner going to Engineering. It would take up the same space as the "Brig". The door was reversed in opening direction than shown in the Journey to Babel set blueprint. 2. It could be a redress of McCoy's Lab with a red door vs. it's normal yellow door. I'm leaning on 1.
A similar door entrance was seen as Ambassador Kollos' quarters in Is There In Truth No Beauty? at about the same period.
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Either that or the brig, as Henoch speculates above. The fact that it's hard to tell means, to me, that the set decorators did a good job.
Not much of a set...single red inner door with a red alert light on one side are the only clues. I think it was a "wild set" built behind the door between Kirk's Office/Quarter door and the corner going to Engineering. It would take up the same space as the "Brig". The door was reversed in opening direction than shown in the Journey to Babel set blueprint.
A similar door entrance was seen as Ambassador Kollos' quarters in Is There In Truth No Beauty? at about the same period.
They could have put this room in the big open space between the bridge and the briefing room. Or was Auxiliary Control taking up that area as a standing set?
If they wanted to be quick and cheap about it, they could have put Kollos in Kirk's quarters. Just replace his desk with that dark gray pedestal, clear out the bric-a-brac, and done.
This thread made me think of Lost in Space. In a LiS third season episode, they built a set to be a third (!?!) deck of the Jupiter 2 below the living quarters deck. Boy that Jupiter 2 was sooome spacecraft.
If I recall correctly, it was shown only in that one episode so my guess is it was a one shot set just for that one episode.
Robert
If I recall correctly, it was shown only in that one episode so my guess is it was a one shot set just for that one episode.
Robert
I'm wondering if Roddenberry had any story ideas for a so called proto holodeck; was this ever even considered in any of the Phase II scripts?
The closest concept would be the simulated medieval reality in "Practice in Waking." But it used a kind of shared dreaming while characters were unconscious, instead of a holographic environment.
Kor
It was also largely cobbled together from stock components that appeared in many other episodes and other shows shot on the Fox lot.
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I wonder if modern hairstyles would have started to show in later seasons kind of like the later years of "Happy Days." Uhura with a Afro, Spock with those big bushy sideburns. Chekov with longer hair. Kirk and Scotty with a early 70's mustaches. Sulu with a perm.
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That doorway in terms of the alert light doesn't match the transporter, the sickbay lab, the briefing room, or even the doorway on Aux Control.Not much of a set...single red inner door with a red alert light on one side are the only clues. Two possible choices: 1. I think it was a "wild set" built behind the door between Kirk's Office/Quarter door and the corner going to Engineering. It would take up the same space as the "Brig". The door was reversed in opening direction than shown in the Journey to Babel set blueprint. 2. It could be a redress of McCoy's Lab with a red door vs. it's normal yellow door. I'm leaning on 1.
A similar door entrance was seen as Ambassador Kollos' quarters in Is There In Truth No Beauty? at about the same period.
What I can tell you form the shooting schedule is that the "Armory" set in "Day of the Dove" was on Stage 9. I suspect you may be right that these sets were erected in the "brig" area, as the door seen across the hall in "Beauty" would be the one into McCoy's lab. The door opening direction would have had to have been reversed from the set plan tho.
Sure. Scotty had his mustache by TMP, right?
And Uhura had an afro, if I recall.
And not just the Enterprise. I'm still impressed by Memory Alpha, Station K-7 (especially the office with the 2 transporter pads), and the rehabilitation colony on Elba II. None of these looked like the Enterprise, yet they all looked consistent with the universe.
We see a proto-holodeck in TAS "The Practical Joker." It definitely used holographic technology but also made use of "taped" sound and movable platforms to simulate (well, it's not simulated if they move) height and depth.
If you think that a third deck on a ship that looks about 1 and 1/2 decks deep is amazing that third deck had a sort of a well that someone fell down into, implying an even lower deck below!!.
If budget cuts continued, no.
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