Will they make another The Matrix movie?

[Kemaiku]

<<And altering the entire ending during production simply to setup the Matrix Online, ruining whatever proper ending we were meant to get originally.>>

Hunh? I never heard this before.

I was a member of TheLastFreeCity forums back in the day, during 2003 after Reloaded's release links were posted about production delays, alterations that had gone on during the 2000-2003 period to do with Revolutions ending.

When the Matrix Online was announced as a follow up, before or at the time of Revolutions hitting cinemas, I remember there being remarks to the effect they had filmed only some bare scenes of an orignal ending, but changed it mid-production to allow an "open ending" to continue the story.

There was no solid evidence for it back in the day either, but no one really doubted the W's where either dumb enough, or greedy enough to have done so.

Either way, Revolutions was a clusterfuck on and off screen. If the series ever is rebooted, please don't let anyone involved with the originals come back.

 

[Mr Light]

I thought the delays and refilmings were because of the deaths of Aliyah and Gloria Foster?

 

[Kemaiku]

I thought the delays and refilmings were because of the deaths of Aliyah and Gloria Foster?

That was certainly part of it, needed a film wide rewrite for the Oracles 'avatar change' explanation from everyone etc.

I don't know, they should either have gone with the original trilogy idea or just stopped at the first movie. The damaging effects of Revolutions means even a remake could be a while in happening.

 

[Lonemagpie]

TBH I'm surprised there's not been a cheap TV spinoff, and I expect there will be someday.

As for the movies... The first is pretty perfect for what it wanted to be; the second is good fun, and the third.... Revolutions really should have been a separate spinoff movie or TV mini, because it's very much aimed at a different audience with different (more literary/spiritual - there's a lot of interestic folkloric inspiration to it) tastes. And the big problem there is the majority who liked the first two are not going to be into the third, and the majority who'd like something like third aren't going to have been interested in the first two, and so won't bother with the climax of a series they haven't followed.

Which means there are relatively few of us who like all three by accepting that the third comes on very different terms...

 

[Set Harth]

I thought the delays and refilmings were because of the deaths of Aliyah and Gloria Foster?

That was certainly part of it, needed a film wide rewrite for the Oracles 'avatar change' explanation from everyone etc.

One line of dialogue? That required a "film wide rewrite"?

 

[Kemaiku]

I thought the delays and refilmings were because of the deaths of Aliyah and Gloria Foster?

That was certainly part of it, needed a film wide rewrite for the Oracles 'avatar change' explanation from everyone etc.

One line of dialogue? That required a "film wide rewrite"?

The Club Hel scene had to be rewritten to reflect the Merovingian having had a part in making her switch, and wanting them to track down her new identity.

Morpheus' scene with her asking how or why it happened.

Smith, Seraph, the ending, Sati, all these scenes had new dialogue or had to be reshot as some had already been made with the previous actress early on.

Bits and pieces overall, her scenes not being extensive but still.

 

[DWF]

I kind of wish they'd reedit Reloaded so we can how Trinity made it from the power station to the downtown skyscraper.

 

[Kibbin]

Maybe Matrix would benefit from a reboot like Highlander, something that plans for these sequels and spinoffs ahead of time instead of being left with a hit franchise that can only have one installment. Winning the game is like Neo's Superman bullet stopping bit from the end of the movie. Something that needs to be nerfed to get some drama for the sequels.

 

[BigJake]

Any new Matrix films would have to be reboots. Frankly I'd welcome that, if just because that premise was rich with possibility and the second and third acts of the Wachowskis' trilogy couldn't have gone much worse.

Still love the Wachowskis, though, they're uneven but when they hit, they really hit:

V for Vendetta. Disappointing.

Nah. Hugely and deservedly successful and a perfectly capable modernization of the original material.

Cloud atlas. Long and poorly thought out.

Cloud Atlas was arguably quite brilliant (I'd agree with this assessment of it), well-structured and faithful to the tone and themes of the source material. It also quashed the myth that the foreign film market just wants to have its hand held and watch Michael Bay movies; while it bombed domestically, it actually did make money with the foreign market taken into account. So who knows but we might even see more movies like it.

 

[kirk55555]

Still love the Wachowskis, though, they're uneven but when they hit, they really hit:

V for Vendetta. Disappointing.

Nah. Hugely and deservedly successful and a perfectly capable modernization of the original material.

While I like the V for Vendetta comic, I love the movie. I thought it was great, and honestly I liked the changes it made from the source material.