Will they make another The Matrix movie?

[Skellington]

The second one had its flaws and its merits. Thought it was exceedingly good overall.

There is no excuse for the third one, though. Revolutions is the only movie that made me seriously consider walking out of the cinema mid-movie.

 

[Kemaiku]

They have always been rumours but no series intent to ever go back, and really they shouldn't.

And one character we could guarantee wouldn't be returning is Smith, the Deus Ex Machina purged him from the Matrix completely, that was the whole point of Neo's sacrifice, to merge his code with Smiths and be deleted with him.

Neo's body being treated to some sort of dignified funereal practise by the Machines was probably just a subtle nod to them not being so evil as they were made out to be.

The Matrix Online continued the story for years, and had archives giving large backstories to the rest. Both were considered canon, the game failed miserably and was taken offline entirely, the sites closed years ago.

If we see the Matrix again, it'll be a reboot (no pun intended).

 

[Gaith]

The second one had its flaws and its merits. Thought it was exceedingly good overall.

There is no excuse for the third one, though. Revolutions is the only movie that made me seriously consider walking out of the cinema mid-movie.

Reloaded is, dramatically speaking, crap, but it's amazing-looking crap, with three eyeball-melting action set pieces, most notably the truly amazing highway extravaganza (for which more than a mile of actual highway was straight-up constructed) that was expressly designed to stand as an unequaled car chase sequence for years, and which indeed has not been topped in the decade-plus since.

Revolutions is just plain crap, crap that a lot of CG artist-hours went into, but emotionally lifeless, visually drab crap that ended with two computer programs talking with each other. And then the official story continued in The Matrix Online, where a series that started as a protest against enslavement by machines ended up enticing people to willingly live in a for-profit, drab digital world before the human-machines war even blocked out the damn sun in the first place.

... And, apart from the formidable story challenge of having nowhere much to go, there are other difficulties to continuing the franchise in live-action, most notably the issue of finding martial artists who can act, or actors willing to put in the time and sweat necessary to appear credible martial artists.

(Not to mention the fact that Internet-surfing smart phones, not yet a thing when Revolutions came out, have sucked everyone happily into the cloud to an extent that utterly destroys the franchise's late-90s conception of a digital world/existence as an unknown, scary threat. Kids today would just shrug and go, "what's the problem"?)

So... yeah, no, The Matrix ain't coming back. What I could see is a new franchise heavily inspired by and inverting the core concept of The Matrix - say, where some sort of quantum-mashing interdimensional storm allows a new generation of hackers to use computers to reshape reality itself.

Wait. Maybe I shouldn't post the above. No one steal that, okay? That idea's all mine.

 

[Set Harth]

Have you seen Hugo Weaving in Anything else recently?

this

 

[Mr Light]

I absolutely love Reloaded. Except for the rave scene that was a complete waste of time. But everything about that sequel blew my mind. The way it expanded the simple binary world of the first movie. The improved production design. The way it turned EVERYTHING we knew on its head. Neo is a pawn. The Oracle is a program. Zion and The One are a recurring concept that the Machines allow. The Merovingian. Mind. Blown.

Not to mention some of the most amazing action scenes ever. The Burly Man Fight. (which admittedly looks horribly CGI now) The Twins are a great new addition to the series (too bad they weren't in the third one). The Highway Chase is absolutely the most incredible car chase ever made; that is an astounding sequence.

And the final scene with the Architect is amazing. That guy was a great actor.

Revolutions is where it all falls apart for me. The promise of the second movie and the Second Renaissance were completely dropped. We only spend two brief sequences in the Matrix, which is where all the interesting stuff happens. The siege of Zion is relatively interesting but it doesn't star ANY of the main characters! The ending superhero battle is pretty cool but it's basically the only standout sequence of the film. And rather than Neo created a true peace between Man and Machine he only creates a tense ceasefire that will inevitably end. And it's really tragic that the original Oracle actress passed away; she was wonderful and the replacement not so much.

I think the fact that the Oracle created Smith to create the cycle was brilliant, though.

 

[Klaus]

Didn't like the overblown, criminally-overrated first one, never bothered with the next 2, so... no!

 

[Ensign_Redshirt]

Maybe the'll do a remake (or "reboot" as it is called by the kids today ) one day... but a straight sequel/prequel set in the same continuity? Not gonna happen.

 

[Joel_Kirk]

Just like they won't make anymore Harry Potter movies because the last book was made. Well they created another movie called the Hobbit. Thats harry potter type movie right? Why not create a movie with Agent Smith in it?

The Hobbit meets Agent Smith?

"Good evening, Mr. Baggins. We missed you."

(It probably might have made the first film better...lol)

Have you seen Hugo Weaving in Anything else recently?

The Hobbit, actually.

Though, not as an agent....but an elf.

In regards to The Matrix movies: I think the poor sequels hurt the initial film. In said film, the idea of Zion came off as interesting and mysterious and Morpheus was mysterious. The sequels killed all that mystery.

Too, the the fight scenes were boring - from the sequels - since Neo would always win or make it out unscathed.

And, I have to say it: They made Trinity less sexy. She was amazing hot in the first film, but she was just boring in the sequels.

Fish Mooney was okay, but I actually think she's sexier in Gotham.

 

[drt]

I'm certain at some point WB will convince the Wachowskis to make a fourth, if only to recoup the money lost on their last three movies.

 

[Set Harth]

Too, the the fight scenes were boring - from the sequels - since Neo would always win or make it out unscathed.

Except for the last one.

 

[davejames]

Actually my favorite action sequence in Reloaded is the chateau fight. The choreography in that is just so mindblowingly cool and fun to watch.

The big mistake Revolutions made was in putting all it's focus on the "real world" story over the much more fun and entertaining matrix world that audiences were enthralled by in the first place. Suddenly it became just another run of the mill, post-apocalyptic scifi movie with people at war against the machines again.

 

[steveda19]

Hugo Weaving cool as an agent. Why not create a movie Hugo Weaving plays an secret service agent and the movie is called "At 3 O'clock " Its about Presidental election candidate. Theres a Woman running for president Meryl Streep plays that candidate that Hugo Weaving plays an secret service agent. And theres an suspicious guy at 3 o'clock in the crowd as he puts his hands on his ear speaks into his jacket and says jack at 3 o'clock. The agents grab him he fires a shot hits tha candidate left shoulder, Grabs the guy takes him inside squad car and then interogates him questions why he shot her. The suspect played by Oded Fehr he's an Iraqi nationalist he's with an fictional terror group. Thats the movie i like to see.

 

[RoJoHen]

Well, that's awfully specific.

 

[Joel_Kirk]

Too, the the fight scenes were boring - from the sequels - since Neo would always win or make it out unscathed.

Except for the last one.

That is true.

 

[Silvercrest]

Hugo Weaving cool as an agent. Why not create a movie Hugo Weaving plays an secret service agent and the movie is called "At 3 O'clock " Its about Presidental election candidate. Theres a Woman running for president Meryl Streep plays that candidate that Hugo Weaving plays an secret service agent. And theres an suspicious guy at 3 o'clock in the crowd as he puts his hands on his ear speaks into his jacket and says jack at 3 o'clock. The agents grab him he fires a shot hits tha candidate left shoulder, Grabs the guy takes him inside squad car and then interogates him questions why he shot her. The suspect played by Oded Fehr he's an Iraqi nationalist he's with an fictional terror group. Thats the movie i like to see.

Uh. Dude.

I'm trying to decide which is more off-the-wall.
1) That you want to see more subpar Matrix movies.
2) That you don't, and you're asking for them anyway, except that you're not really asking for them, because you just want to see Hugo Weaving.

I think the winner is: 3) That you apparently don't know anything about Harry Potter or The Hobbit but you're bringing them up anyway in a Matrix thread.

Congratulations!

 

[Unicron]

I absolutely love Reloaded. Except for the rave scene that was a complete waste of time. But everything about that sequel blew my mind. The way it expanded the simple binary world of the first movie. The improved production design. The way it turned EVERYTHING we knew on its head. Neo is a pawn. The Oracle is a program. Zion and The One are a recurring concept that the Machines allow. The Merovingian. Mind. Blown.

Not to mention some of the most amazing action scenes ever. The Burly Man Fight. (which admittedly looks horribly CGI now) The Twins are a great new addition to the series (too bad they weren't in the third one). The Highway Chase is absolutely the most incredible car chase ever made; that is an astounding sequence.

And the final scene with the Architect is amazing. That guy was a great actor.

Revolutions is where it all falls apart for me. The promise of the second movie and the Second Renaissance were completely dropped. We only spend two brief sequences in the Matrix, which is where all the interesting stuff happens. The siege of Zion is relatively interesting but it doesn't star ANY of the main characters! The ending superhero battle is pretty cool but it's basically the only standout sequence of the film. And rather than Neo created a true peace between Man and Machine he only creates a tense ceasefire that will inevitably end. And it's really tragic that the original Oracle actress passed away; she was wonderful and the replacement not so much.

I think the fact that the Oracle created Smith to create the cycle was brilliant, though.

I pretty much agree. Reloaded has some flaws, but I think it did a good job expanding elements of the first movie and going in some unexpected directions. Revolutions was badly paced and threw all of that development out the window.

 

[steveda19]

My point is Hugo Weaving looks cool in a suit. He could play MIB next to Agent K and Agent J. He could play Agent Z

 

[Kemaiku]

I pretty much agree. Reloaded has some flaws, but I think it did a good job expanding elements of the first movie and going in some unexpected directions. Revolutions was badly paced and threw all of that development out the window.

Mainly because of the three major missteps in the making of the trilogy.

The studio making them do the middle film first, cut out the prequel and stick it into the Animatrix and split the final film into two sequels.

Letting the Bro's write the final two films with none of the script polishing the first film had to smooth out the story, thinking it would 'just be okay' to go with the first draft they pumped out.

And altering the entire ending during production simply to setup the Matrix Online, ruining whatever proper ending we were meant to get originally.

Reloaded suffered the least for it having most of the good material. Revolutions was so banded about during production, alterations, padding, re-casting, that it's as much a mess onscreen as it was behind the scenes.

A complete remake, with more care and attention, less fluff, would be the better route to go now.

 

[Mr Light]

<<And altering the entire ending during production simply to setup the Matrix Online, ruining whatever proper ending we were meant to get originally.>>

Hunh? I never heard this before.

 

[Showdown]

My point is Hugo Weaving looks cool in a suit. He could play MIB next to Agent K and Agent J. He could play Agent Z

I like this idea.

This is just my speculation. The think the Wachowskis told the story they wanted to tell in the original film. It made so much money, the movie studio execs want more. They have a good idea for the sequel, but for whatever reason, split into 2 movies. (probably for more $$$) Instead of having the middle and final chapters in a trilogy, we get 2 half movies, with extended boring rave scenes, and a battle for zion without main characters... which leaves a mess. Thinking back, maybe one the main characters should stay in Zion to defend it.

IMO, Reloaded was just ok, hated Revolutions and the Animatrix. The original is one of my favorites. Doubt there will be sequels. A reboot in the future might be okay.