Why was it cancelled?

[Maurice]

To the person who got part of this o'most
Right, please tell me how far back can you remember
The network wars?, and do you know who didn't want to
See any thing like that on tv? From the year of 1966
To 1968?. And what was the time it was on
TV for the west cost ?.

CLICK THIS LINK and you'll see when the show was on the air on what days and timeslots and some of what the ratings were.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Depends on age, possibly. Watching in the UK, as far as I recall the first episode of any Trek I ever saw was Yesteryear (running on a Saturday around 5.30pm-ish in the Doctor Who slot when I was maybe seven). When I saw the live action version (which was by then run, or rather re-run, in the later 7.20pm weekday slot later taken by Blake's 7) I remember being astonished that they'd managed to find real people actors who looked so like the ones in the cartoon (and then realised that obviously when they'd made the cartoon they'd drawn the characters to look like the actors, and then used the same actors in the live action series. The idea that the live action one had been made first didn't occur to me until a bit later...)

I remember TAS when it first came on but I'd already seen the live action show before it! I'd also seen other Schemer cartoon shows as well like Tarzan, remember that one? Although their Tarzan looked nothing like Ron Ely where as Kirk did look like the Shat! LoL
JB

Why would an animated Tarzan look like Ron Ely? Different decade. Different studio. Different approach. Different network. .

 

[Maurice]

Although their Tarzan looked nothing like Ron Ely where as Kirk did look like the Shat! LoL
JB

Why would an animated Tarzan look like Ron Ely? Different decade. Different studio. Different approach. Different network. .

Plus Tarzan had already been played by a bunch of different actors over many decades, so why would they pick out Ron Ely instead of, say, Johnny Weissmuller?

 

[Bixby]

I can't remember if both came out at the exact same time, but in the late 70s Marvel Comics had a Tarzan comic book and the design for Tarzan was pretty similar to Filmation's
http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2...n_reference_sheet_by_junglecaptor-d4u4lmj.jpg
https://d1466nnw0ex81e.cloudfront.net/n_iv/600/1066107.jpg

 

[Nerys Myk]

Marvel took over the Tarzan books from DC in 1977. The series came out in 1976. Kubert (DC) and Buscema (Marvel) took similar approaches to the character,

 

[LMFAOschwarz]

Marvel took over the Tarzan books from DC in 1977. The series came out in 1976. Kubert (DC) and Buscema (Marvel) took similar approaches to the character,

Geoff, did you happen to have read any of Marvel's John Carter, Warlord of Mars series back in those days? I read a number of them, and I found them interesting. Your comment made me think of it, is all.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Marvel took over the Tarzan books from DC in 1977. The series came out in 1976. Kubert (DC) and Buscema (Marvel) took similar approaches to the character,

Geoff, did you happen to have read any of Marvel's John Carter, Warlord of Mars series back in those days? I read a number of them, and I found them interesting. Your comment made me think of it, is all.

I was a massive ERB fan in the 70s. I read anything ERB related. I enjoyed the Marvel series, but I prefer the DC take with art by Murphy Anderson.

 

[telerites]

Marvel took over the Tarzan books from DC in 1977. The series came out in 1976. Kubert (DC) and Buscema (Marvel) took similar approaches to the character,

Geoff, did you happen to have read any of Marvel's John Carter, Warlord of Mars series back in those days? I read a number of them, and I found them interesting. Your comment made me think of it, is all.

I was a massive ERB fan in the 70s. I read anything ERB related. I enjoyed the Marvel series, but I prefer the DC take with art by Murphy Anderson.

Have seen the Carson of Venus stuff that ran in Korak with art by Kaluta - stunning, especially the splash pages.

I too am a huge ERB nut and also a Murphy Anderson fan. His Atomic Knights was great stuff and he always had a way of making the artist's pencils look even better. His inking on Infantino was a great match for Adam Strange.

 

[Leon]

Saturday morning TV during the 1960's- 70's was a beautiful thing

 

[johnnybear]

Saturday morning TV during the 1960's- 70's was a beautiful thing

And the early 80s too! I wonder why the channels have let Saturday morning entertainment slide? Over here in the UK it was a fantastic time until ITV and BBC slung Tiswas and The Multi Coloured Swap Shop at us!
JB

 

[Maurice]

Saturday morning ceased to be relevant because of cable channels having large animation blocks in the afternoons (anyone remember TNT Toons?), plus Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon and home video. So many options that the emphasis on network kidvid blocks got somewhat deemphasized. If there was money to be made the old way someone would be doing it.

 

[Leon]

I remember from the late 1970's thru the mid- 1980's when many of the networks began to drop cartoons from the Saturday morning lineups. There was a lot of blame put on violence in the programming such as Looney Toons, some of the superhero type shows, as well as 'toons which were spun- off from real life TV shows.

There have been books published which chronicle Saturday morning TV and it's history.
YouTube also has some pretty cool little snippets from this period and are definitely worth looking into.

 

[erastus25]

I remember from the late 1970's thru the mid- 1980's when many of the networks began to drop cartoons from the Saturday morning lineups. There was a lot of blame put on violence in the programming such as Looney Toons, some of the superhero type shows, as well as 'toons which were spun- off from real life TV shows.

There have been books published which chronicle Saturday morning TV and it's history.
YouTube also has some pretty cool little snippets from this period and are definitely worth looking into.

And now the Saturday morning cartoon is dead...

 

[johnnybear]

Television in general is atrocious these days as well! It's more feasable now that television may well disappear well before the twenty third century!
JB

 

[Leon]

I remember from the late 1970's thru the mid- 1980's when many of the networks began to drop cartoons from the Saturday morning lineups. There was a lot of blame put on violence in the programming such as Looney Toons, some of the superhero type shows, as well as 'toons which were spun- off from real life TV shows.

There have been books published which chronicle Saturday morning TV and it's history.
YouTube also has some pretty cool little snippets from this period and are definitely worth looking into.

And now the Saturday morning cartoon is dead...

Yes, a very sad and unfortunate truth.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

I remember from the late 1970's thru the mid- 1980's when many of the networks began to drop cartoons from the Saturday morning lineups. There was a lot of blame put on violence in the programming such as Looney Toons, some of the superhero type shows, as well as 'toons which were spun- off from real life TV shows.

Actually, violence had been gutted from adventure (superhero, etc.) by the end of 1969. For example, Filmation's superhero series produced between 1966-69 contained a good dose of violence associated with characters of that kind. Like a night & day change, by the end of the decade, it was gone (see: their 1977 Batman series).

Guns, fists, kicks and death (by any means) vanished from nearly 100% of network series of the next two decades, save for rare exceptions, such as the occasional struggle & Phaser shot on the animated Star Trek, & gorillas threatening with rifles on Return to the Planet of the Apes (both NBC).

On the syndicated front, things were a bit different; imports--even when edited--retained a level of violence (seen or implied) no network production would dare touch, hence the reason the awful Super Friends (ABC) was a collection of glorified finger wagging, rather than anything kids would have expected from a superhero group.

The syndicated Battle of the Planets felt like a true superhero program more than the nationally established DC characters from the Super Friends.

Even the great Jonny Quest was edited when rerun on networks in the 70s /80s, along with removing allegedly culturally insensitive content.

 

[erastus25]

Television in general is atrocious these days as well! It's more feasable now that television may well disappear well before the twenty third century!
JB

I don't know about that. I think most shows on the broadcast networks are atrocioius, but there are diamonds in the rough, and the premium networks like HBO are putting out some really good stuff. Prime time TV as we know it may be dying...but TV is far from dead.

 

[Maurice]

We generally only remember the good shows from the past. Just look at the entire schedule of NBC in the mid to late 70s and you'll see how rotten TV could be.

 

[Ithekro]

The type of programming or at least entertainment value that was TV will continue to exist, but it will likely change media to the Internet sooner than later. There are already a few internet youtube channels that can rival television shows for the number of viewers.

By the era of Star Trek, if there is still a need for recorded entertainment, than I would gather it would be in a new media such as the holodeck, or earlier versions of that technology by the 23rd century. It would become more and more interactive, combining present day TV with computer game Roleplaying Games, and potenally MMO style entertainment on a networked holodeck (planetary only...subspace lag makes raiding difficult from Andoria to Terra). One would probably not see much of this on a starship, but there are hints of it even in Voyager about Janeway enteracting with holodeck children's entertainment when she was little.

 

[Bixby]

We generally only remember the good shows from the past. Just look at the entire schedule of NBC in the mid to late 70s and you'll see how rotten TV could be.

True. Just look at cartoons in the late 60s (Herculoids, Fantastic Four, Superman, Space Ghost, Jonny Quest). That was an amazing time if you were a young boy getting up to spend saturday morning watching cartoons. But the censors got up in arms and kidvid got basically neutered for the next 13 to 15 years. I was a dedicated watcher for all those years, but so much of it was basically warmed-over crap designed to make parents' groups feel safer (and especially mothers who wouldn't know what is entertainment to a young boy if their life depended on it).