What continuity errors are there on Voyager?

[froot]

It's not that breast feeding isn't a fascinating subject, but just this weekend, one particular inconsistency of Voyager came back to bother me.

In season 3's Warlord, Kes breaks up with Neelix. Only it's really Tieran who has taken over Kes and wants Neelix off his back. After the episode, Tieran's gone and things should go back to "normal". But it appears that the break-up was for real.

Now, I grant that they might as well have broken up off-screen, shortly after that episode. It's just very peculiar that it coincided with this episode. Always seemed to me that the writers conveniently forgot what really happened in Warlord.

And now, back to breast feeding.

I don't mean to further derail this thread from breast feeding, but, apparently, the writers didn't forget about this. They actually broke up outside of the whole mind control thing, and I think a scene was actually written or filmed.

Someone who saw Ethan Phillips recently mentioned this, but I forgot who because my memory is terrible.

 

[Dukhat]

I don't know if anyone has already mentioned this (since I'm too lazy to slog through the previous pages of thread replies), but wasn't Kim romantically involved with a girl named Libby before Voyager was lost? If that was the case, then...why did he tell the recently reanimated Lindsey Ballard that she was the reason why he joined Starfleet (i.e. to be with her)? Either

a) The writers of the latter episode forgot about the former,

b) Harry was leading a double life (which was not at all hinted at in the latter episode), or

c) I'm just not remembering correctly.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Q: Why did Harry forget about Libby?

A: Tom is a whore.

In episode 2, Tom is saying that he needs a wingman to get some, but Kim declines because he respects the girl he left back home, which causes Turkey Platter to chuckle admitting that he respects all four of his girlfriends back in the Alpha Quadrant, but that doesn't mean he isn't looking for numbers 5 and 6 on Voyager.

Despite the fact that both crews should want to kill him for treason against the Maquis and treason against the Federation, Tom didn't think that that would get in his way.

So Tom would have called him a girl ad infinitum until Young Kim finally cowboyed up and moved on.

We met Libby in Non Sequitor, the Actress previously made out with Worf, and the character wasn't angry, spiteful or vengeful at Harry in the slightest during the homecoming novels. It was sickenly convivial.

 

[AuntKate]

Well Janeway's morality and the continuity errors of the torpedoes and shuttles and hull damage are quite different things.

Janeway was at most a hypocrit. From "The Swarm" Tuvok tells her she's violating Starfleet regs by intruding on a hostile power against their wishes. She says, "Well we're gonna be doing a lotof that. Same thing when she enters Krenim space and almost gets them all killed.

The she comes along to Ransom andjudges him on his depserate measures. But then becomes Ransom but all is forgiven because she brings the croutons to the party after all the killing.

Janeway was a very reckless commander, justifying her means to get her crew home no matter what it took. But she tried to present herself as a reg-following pinnacle of Federation morality and not the headstrong James Kirk that she became.

In defense of their actions in "The Swarm," it is ridiculous for any species to claim hundreds of sectors of space and not be willing to discuss options for transit. The crew figured it would take fifteen months at maximum warp to circumvent their claimed area--and they wouldn't be able to sustain that speed. Sneaking across their space was a viable option and they would have been successful in crossing the space undetected if Janeway had ignored the distress call of another person who couldn't deal with the swarm's ridiculous territorial claims. When they attacked her, despite her efforts to talk to them, she defended herself--hardly the equivalent of Ransom's murder of the aliens to fuel his modified engines. Basically, she turned their weapons back on them--poetic justice, I'd say.

When it comes to Starfleet regs, Janeway is screwed either way. She can adhere to the regs and take forever to get home, or she can realize that in the DQ the regs may/may not apply and modify her compliance based on the situation. I really think that if she'd circumvented their space, some posters would criticize her for it, just as some posters criticize her for trying to sneak through. As far as I'm concerned, her decision here is not that unreasonable a compromise. It might be unethical, but it isn't immoral, the way Ransom's was. I don't think she's a hypocrit as much as a pragmatist.

 

[Anwar]

So it's okay for the Feds to ignore the Dominion's "we rule the Gamma Quadrant, stay out!" spiel, but it isn't okay for Janeway to ignore the Swarm's similarly ridiculous claim about their space?

 

[AuntKate]

So it's okay for the Feds to ignore the Dominion's "we rule the Gamma Quadrant, stay out!" spiel, but it isn't okay for Janeway to ignore the Swarm's similarly ridiculous claim about their space?

That's what many people seem to think. Seems to me, it's the same issue faced by both--with the same response.

 

[Lord Manitou]

Not to disturb the course of the thread whereupon I might discover an actual inconsistency. The decision to use Seven in the ep. 'One' to guide crew and ship safely through the nebula is careless. The captain is a women and is usually very careful about how the crew might imminently become in danger. They were trusting Seven who would become sick anyway mothering a helpless crew and with the sleeping crew who might not last through the effects of the gaseous nebula. I'm sure witnessing her consistency with the doctor would rather become weak proof.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Did the dominion really say "Stay out"? Sure they destroyed the odyssey, and colony of New Bajor, but on their terms that was just bargaining points in a very animated conversation.

You see, they might have wanted this scum out, but they did want Odo back too, which is what we figured out in the Search, lines of communication, for all their posturing, created a weary truce that Dominion warships were allowed to stop over at DS9 and bid on baseball cards against Jake Sisko... You know, until Ben started the war.

If Odo hadn't been in the equation, sure the "stay out!" would have been super final, but the Dominion needed that door open or they were going to never get their friend/brother back.

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Psychopaths claiming chunks of the Earth that will rape and murder you if you cross their Borders into their home soil without permission?

Russia.

China.

North Korea.

America.

...

The Swarm put a fence up.

They maintained it.

They gave one warning.

And the warning was not confusing.

And they enforced that warning.

It wasn't contested space.

And they hadn't been there for 5 minutes.

Now consider this...

What if Janeway had given "two warnings"?

If the Swarm had escorted Janeway back to the border where she had crossed into Swarm-Space in the first place, instead of killing the entire crew?

Would Janeway spend 18 months going around, or wait till she thought no one was watching and try to sneak through again?

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Janeway was coming towards the Alpha Quadrant through the Beta Quadrant. She had to figure out how to quietly pass through Klingon and Romulan space when she came to their borders without being raped and killed or killed and raped.

This was not good practice at avoiding being killed and raped or raped and killed.

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Voyager can raise and sack planets.

Anyones Customs and Excises should be bloody weary.

Demand that Voyager eject it's torpedoes and phaser power cells before they come into their space, anywhere near their shipping lanes or homeworlds.

Due diligence.

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Did Ransom go through or around Swarm Space?

How fucked up different could Equinox's course have been this close to the Array?

 

[Anwar]

The Jem'Hadar clearly stated that they weren't going to tolerate any ships through the Wormhole, and to demonstrate they killed all the colonists at New Bajor and destroyed all the Alpha vessels in the GQ at the time. And this was NOT in space they claimed, they just wanted to kill them all.

The Swarm had laid claim to a huge amount of space without proving it was theirs, they just said "It's ours, don't go remotely near it". Just like the Dominion only without the random killings.

Same situation, in both cases Starfleet says "F You" and goes in anyways.

 

[Guy Gardener]

But that's how you build an empire.

You murder or jail anyone that disagrees with you.

Do you think King George thought that George Washington was basically a nice guy for stealing one of his countries?

the swarm proved it was their space by killing anyone who thought they were stuttering.

Lets put this down to a personal level Anwar.

Some one cuts through your property, to get from A to B without asking.

Do you mind?

Some one cuts though your property, to get from a to b, without asking and you tell them to bugger off but they ignore you.

Do you mind?

Some one cuts through your house, without asking, to get from A to B.

Do you mind?

Some one cuts through your house, to get from a to b, and you tell them to bugger off, but they ignore you.

Do you mind?

Someone cuts through your 9 year old daughters bedroom to get from a to b without asking.

Do you mind?

Some one cuts through your nine year old daughters bedroom to get from a to b and you tell them to bugger off but they ignore you.

Do you mind?

How often and long are you going to tolerate your nine year old daughters bedroom, where she sleeps, as she sleeps being used as a point of mass transit by the galaxies trash and hobo transients, and armed to the teeth hobo trash transients at that, who will ignore your cat calls of "fuck off" and "get out you paedophile!" or that you think that your 9 year old daughter should sleep in peace rather than wait for the sound of her window being continually forced open by vagrants who might as well kill her and everyone else in your house if you raise the slightest opposition to their tresspass?

Janeway lost any moral high ground after she killed thousands and thousands of border guards in what basically must have been their version of Starfleet defending all the little bug children from meanies who thought they'd taste good on toast, because Kathryn could no longer say that she "came in peace" or "only had good intentions". Well I suppose even as she was killing all those Swarmies despite the deathtoll she did still have good intentions, just highly unrealistic good intentions with all that blood on her hands.

Because of Janeways butchering, I doubt that the swarm gives "one" warning any more.

Anyone approaching their boarder is now probably killed because the Swarm can't trust that any unknown threat is not an asshole like Janeway who is incapable of respecting civil contracts or common decency enough to not massacre their people unlawfully by the cubic ton.

Oh.

You don't think that that species was just the few ships Janeway destroyed? You can't think that they don't have Hundreds of worlds and trillions of citizens spaced out across all kinds of settlements to full up all the space they insist that they own?

Janeway declared war on a civilization as numerate as the federation or the Dominon that day, not some gaggle of a few hundred gangbangers posturing about how big they are.

kathryn janeway is a bully.

 

[Anwar]

But it's not them cutting through someone else's property. It's you just traveling around and then some jackass comes in and says "This is my land even though my house is 2000 miles away" without any real proof of ownership and then taking pot shots at you for going through an utterly empty space that these so-called owners have done little to nothing with to mark as their own.

 

[exodus]

It's not that breast feeding isn't a fascinating subject, but just this weekend, one particular inconsistency of Voyager came back to bother me.

In season 3's Warlord, Kes breaks up with Neelix. Only it's really Tieran who has taken over Kes and wants Neelix off his back. After the episode, Tieran's gone and things should go back to "normal". But it appears that the break-up was for real.

Now, I grant that they might as well have broken up off-screen, shortly after that episode. It's just very peculiar that it coincided with this episode. Always seemed to me that the writers conveniently forgot what really happened in Warlord.

And now, back to breast feeding.

Not that I'm defending the writers but I was always under the impression that Voyager was geared more toward the casual fan, than the die hard ones. The issues they seemed to be inconsistent on are ones casual viewers wouldn't notice of ask about, like ship repair or the relationship of two weaker characters.

Plus, Trek's been inconsistent before: Trills can't transport for example and we ignored it. Maybe they figured we'd keep doing so.

 

[Sisko4Life]

How the hell did the Equinox end up ahead of Voyager? Ransom says 10,000 light years with the enhanced drive.. but Voyager was 30-35,000 light years out at the time -_-. Also, I think its odd that they both start from the same place and encounter entirely different species (and Equinox some how misses the bigass region of Borg space)

 

[Anwar]

Bad writing on Ron Moore's behalf. A story like Equinox should happen in season 1 or two, not season 5.

 

[exodus]

How the hell did the Equinox end up ahead of Voyager? Ransom says 10,000 light years with the enhanced drive.. but Voyager was 30-35,000 light years out at the time -_-. Also, I think its odd that they both start from the same place and encounter entirely different species (and Equinox some how misses the bigass region of Borg space)

I'm not 100% sure but didn't Janeway say that Equinox went missing a few months before Voyager's first mission?

Wouldn't you encounter different species if Equinox went off in the another direction than Voyager? Neelix was the one that pointed Voyager in the direction they took.

"Scorpion pt 1", Janeway says it's possible to fly around Borg space but from their current position, it would add 5 more years. The course Equinox went, took them around Borg space without knowing it ahead of time. How do natives of the DQ get around if you can't get around Borg space?

It's also possable to live and travel the DQ without ever knowing of the Borg. The Hirogen in "The Killing Game" never heard of them. Many of the species before "Blood Fever" didn't seem concerned with them either. Neelix never knew of them.

 

[Guy Gardener]

But it's not them cutting through someone else's property. It's you just travelling around and then some jackass comes in and says "This is my land even though my house is 2000 miles away" without any real proof of ownership and then taking pot shots at you for going through an utterly empty space that these so-called owners have done little to nothing with to mark as their own.

They had a tachyon detection net panning the entire perimeter of their empire. Picard required over 20 starships to erect one of those to cover the Klingon/Romunlan border in the Klingon Civil war and those ships were only each separated by a few hours travel at high warp.

15 months to go around their tachyon detection net, which means maybe 30 months to circumnavigate the entire bastard.

That means that they would need 20 starbases per one days travel around the perimeter of Swarmie space....

20 starbases x 30 days x 30 months = 18000 starbases surrounding the perimeter of swarmy space if swarmie technology is comparable to Federation in 2368.

That sounds like a bloody big fence and manifest destiny to me.

If their nieghbours disagreed with that fence, it wouldn't be there. Neelix lived nearly 3 thousand light years away and he respected and feared that fence, from after just hearing drunk 4th hand horror stories around campfires closer to home years earlier.

What criteria do you believe that Janeway used to decide if Aliens own the space they live in?

(I'm sure I've done this for you before...)

TUVOK: I've made numerous hails on wideband subspace. The only response has been a single repeating message.
CHAKOTAY: What's that?
JANEWAY: I'd guess it's a language so unlike ours that the universal translator can't interpret it. Harry, remodulate the translator, see if we can decipher those sounds. Neelix, what can you tell us?
NEELIX: If these people are who I think they are, I can tell you this is very bad news. I've never actually encountered them but from what I've heard I'm glad I didn't. Most ships that enter their space are never heard from again. Some have returned with everyone on board dead. They're a complete mystery. No one knows their name, how many of them there are, what the culture is like. Just that they really don't want people violating their territory.
KIM: If this is any indication of their borders, it's a huge area of space, hundreds of sectors. If we were to go around it it would take months.
CHAKOTAY: I'd say over fifteen months even if we could sustain maximum warp, which we can't.
JANEWAY: I'm not going to tell this crew we're adding another fifteen months to this journey. We'll have to find another option.
TUVOK: If we are not to go around their space the only available option is to go through it.
JANEWAY: Precisely.
KIM: Tom and B'Elanna hit a sensor net as they crossed the border. We have to figure we'll run into it when we try to cross. But there are ways around sensor nets.
CHAKOTAY: They can't possibly have enough ships to patrol a border this size. We could probably find an unguarded section.
TUVOK: Would it affect your decision if I pointed out that encroaching on the territory of an alien species is prohibited by starfleet regulations?
JANEWAY: No, it wouldn't.
TUVOK: Captain, you have managed to surprise me.
JANEWAY: We're a long way from starfleet, Lieutenant. I'm not about to waste 15 months because we've run into a bunch of bullies.
EMH [OC]: Sickbay to Captain Janeway.
JANEWAY: Go ahead, Doctor.
EMH [OC]: Please turn to your emergency medical holographic channel. [on monitor] I'm afraid LieutenantParis suffered greater neurological damage than my initial scan revealed. I'm going to have to perform a motor cortex reconstruction. There's no need to be overly concerned. His condition is not life-threatening. The procedure is a relatively simple one for a skilled physician.
JANEWAY: Very good, Doctor. Keep me informed. All right, I want a plan for crossing that border as quickly and as quietly as possible. We'll reconvene in an hour. Dismissed.

They knew it was Swarm space.

There was never any doubt.

She just didn't care.

Janeway knew she was breaking bad, but she just didn't give a fig, hell she almost turned her feelings inside out to justify rending federation law into confetti for her own big 21 steel drum parade for diddling over another bunch of idiot aliens.

Remember this?

DURKEN: What do you want?
PICARD: A beginning. But how we proceed is entirely up to you.
DURKEN: And if my wishes should conflict with yours?
PICARD: There'll be no conflict.
DURKEN: And if I should tell you to leave and never return to my world?
PICARD: We will leave and never return. Chancellor, we are here only to help guide you into a new era. I can assure you we will not interfere in the natural development of your planet. That is, in fact, our Prime Directive.

Good times.

This made me laugh

ALIEN [on viewscreen]: You're trespassing in Chokuzan space.
Q2: We were just leaving.
ALIEN [on viewscreen]: Our laws require that you be incarcerated pending an investigation.
Q2: How long will that take?
ALIEN [on viewscreen]: Disengage your engines and prepare to be boarded.
ICHEB: We should do as he says.
Q2: Why? Just because he has a bigger ship?
ICHEB: Because Captain Janeway has taught us to respect the laws of other cultures.
Q2: I should have known better than to bring you along.

They must not have told Icheb how Janeway dealt with the Swarm.

 

[WarpCore]

I want to add something on this wondering if anyone else noted it since I'm just watching it now:

In Voyager S4E24 Demon - they allow DNA copies of themselves to be made by the primordial stuff on that planet that wants to be sentient.

In S4E26 Hope & Fear they get slipstream technology but don't use it until a future episode...

In S5E1 Night - they use a wormhole that cuts 2 years off their journey.

In S5E6 Timeless - they adapt the slipstream technology from Hope & Fear and ultimately shave off 10 years from their journey.

In S5E15 Dark Frontier part 2 - they use the Borg transwarp coil and shave another 15 years off their journey.

Now here is the part that gets me:

In S5E17 Course: Oblivion - the duplicates made in Demon had ventured toward earth 'home' having forgotten they were duplicates. They can't survive any longer due to the warp drive (and I think because they need to be on a Y class planet). Ultimately, they fall apart in space. At the end, the real Voyager crosses path with whatever was left floating in space, yet how could the real Voyager come across the duplicates when the real Voyager was already 25-27 years ahead of them? The Demon Voyager is a copy of the original and doesn't have different abilities. So I don't understand how the two could have crossed paths at all unless maybe they changed a stardate recording in a log entry (since I don't pay attention to them) and made it actually an earlier entry than it was, but even then - in the episode they state that 18 months had passed for the Demon Voyager since they left the Demon planet and on the real Voyager it would have to be the same 18 months, wouldn't it?

So how could they cross paths when one is 25 years closer to earth?

Signed up for this forum/board because of this inconsistency/discontinuity and started googling to see how many others people had found.

Wanted to add to starlite's list a bit.

The duplicate ship and crew left the Demon planet after the real Voyager.

In S5E1 Night, Voyager destroys the vortex that cut 2/2.5 years off their journey, so the duplicate couldn't have used it. The other 2 methods of "faster than warp" travel are unlikely for the duplicate as well. So there's no way they could have caught up to the originals. Unless they found a wormhole that gets them nearly halfway to Earth that wasn't even worth mentioning in S5E17?

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How does Voyager first encounter the Malon species during S5E1 Night, then use a stolen trans warp coil in S5E15-16 Dark Frontier to travel 20k LY, and in S5E21 Juggernaut run into another Malon ship? Dark Frontier was obviously aired and placed incorrectly on a timeline.


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Crew compliment numbers

Voyager had an explicit crew of 127 on it at one point. Do officers and captains not count as crew but Tuvok and Chakotay do?

[Corridor]
CHAKOTAY: Not taking any chances, are you?
JANEWAY: Don't feel singled out. I've asked the Doctor to examine the entire crew. There's no telling how 8472 got their information about Starfleet. From the Borg, Earth. For all we know there's been an impostor on board.
[Sickbay - Doctor's office]
EMH: Cell morphology normal, all of your nucleotide sequences are accounted for, you're a hundred percent human.
CHAKOTAY: That's a relief. And Tuvok?
EMH: Green blooded Vulcan through and through. Well, two down, one hundred and twenty five to go.

Only two episodes later that number jumps 25 people.

KIM [on monitor]: Hello, Harry. I don't have much time, so listen to me. Fifteen years ago, I made a mistake and one hundred and fifty people died. I've spent every day since then regretting that mistake, but if you're watching this right now, that means all of that has changed. You owe me one.

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NEELIX: You'll have to provide us with a sample of warp plasma. I wouldn't take any from Voyager.
BAHRAT: What I can give you won't be of the same quality.
NEELIX: Doesn't matter, we'll make do.
BAHRAT: All right, we'll try it. But I don't hold any hopes that you will survive.

GEGEN [OC]: Across the vastness of space to find one ship among sea of stars is no easy matter, and for many weeks we found nothing. And then fortune glanced in our direction. A trader from a space station bordering the Nekrit Expanse informed us of a curious group of explorers, claiming to be from the other side of the galaxy. The merchants there spoke of a vessel called Voyager. They were able to help us clarify certain details. With this new information, we began to acquire other items and new evidence. Our most significant find - a canister of warp plasma from Voyager's engines, so now we are scanning space for a matching signature. Little is known about these explorers, but they call themselves human

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This isn't really an inconsistency as much as it is a silly scene change.

[Pseudo Engineering] pTUVOK: three of the engineering crew. They've taken Seven of Nine and one of the injured crew members hostage.
[Pseudo Bridge]
pTUVOK [OC]: They're now on deck two, section thirty two.

The Kyrian intruders went from deck 11 to deck 2 in the amount of time it took Tuvok to raise his arm and tap his comm badge?

There are a couple more inconsistencies with the placement or distance to the Mess Hall imo.

NEELIX [OC]: Neelix to bridge. Is anyone there? Emergency!
JANEWAY: Neelix, this is the Captain. What's wrong?
NEELIX [OC]: Help. I need help! I'm in the mess hall. There's a
(Weapons fire.)
JANEWAY: Neelix, are you there? Neelix? With the turbolifts down it'll take me a half hour to get there. Doctor, it's up to you. I'll use the remote projectors to send you to the Mess hall. Stand by for transfer.

While this was an EMH hallucination, it still doesn't make sense to take 30 minutes to climb a ladder down 1 deck.


I can't remember or find the episodes for it, I believe in another episode, someone asks the turbolift to take them to the Mess Hall on Deck 5 or 6.

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Cruising speed of 9.975?

TUVOK: They appear not to have detected us. They have not powered up engines.
JANEWAY: All right, let's get through this as fast as we can. Mister Paris, what's your recommendation?
PARIS: I'll try holding warp nine point seven five for as long as I can.
CHAKOTAY: If we can sustain that for twelve hours we'll be nearly a third of the way through.

and of course

KIM: They're approaching warp nine point nine.
CHAKOTAY: Increase speed to match.
COMPUTER: Warning. Nearing maximum warp velocity. Structural collapse is imminent.
CHAKOTAY: Are we in tractor range?
KIM: No. And they're still accelerating. Warp nine point nine seven.
COMPUTER: Warning. At present speed, structural failure in forty five seconds.
CHAKOTAY: Reduce sped to warp nine point five. Keep a sensor lock on them as long as you can.

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Since people brought up toilets, they are at least mentioned.

NEELIX: Yes, ma'am. Coffee, black. While I've got your attention, there are.
JANEWAY: Coffee first. Now, what's the problem?
NEELIX: It's a, it's a delicate matter.
JANEWAY: I don't have time to play twenty questions, Neelix.
NEELIX: Replicators aren't the only systems of convenience offline. We've only got four functioning lavatories for a ship of a hundred and fifty people.
JANEWAY: I see.
NEELIX: Needless to say, lines are beginning to form. If we don't get unstuck soon we may have a serious problem on our hands. Especially with the Bolians. All but three sonic showers are offline, too. In another couple of days.
JANEWAY: I get the idea.

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As for

CHAKOTAY: We have a complement of thirty eight photon torpedoes at our disposal, Captain.
JANEWAY: And no way to replace them after they're gone.

Maybe she meant while they were stuck in the nebula/creature.

As for later replicating torpedoes, if they needed an industrial replicator, is it ever mentioned anywhere how big one is? What's to stop them from replicating parts and building a bigger replicator? Bajor only got a handful of them because they weren't a member of the Federation and no one really liked them anyway. Help them too much and they couldn't play victim any more.

 

[WarpCore]

Remembered another I left out before.

JANEWAY: We're in Starling's office. I want you to establish a comm. link with my tricorder and try to upload his computer database.
KIM [OC]: Aye Captain. We'll need a few minutes to reconfigure to their binary system.

Referring to Starling's 1990s computer system as an insult to make it sound primitive.

GEGEN: Well, they are mammals, after all. Ah, over here. This appears to be a computer access terminal. Simple binary system. I've downloaded their database.

Again trying to use binary as if it were an insult of being inferior but this time insulting Voyager's computer.

 

[MacLeod]

As I recall earlier DSN episodes hinted about the Dominion, like that region on the edge of Gamma quadrant end of the Bajorian wormhole was on the outside edge of DOminion space not within it.

If that was the case, the Federation didn't violate Dominion space until they started to venture deeper into that region.

Dominion reasoning could at that point have changed to something more along the lines of. These people are technoloically advanced and pose a threat to us (given the founders distrust of solids) so we'll tell them to stay on their side of the wormhole. That is untilwe have assembled an Invasion fleet to conquer/destroy them.

 

[You_Will_Fail]

The continuity errors/illogical-ness really slapped me across the face the first time I watched the show.