It's so function-over-form. No MSD, no aft bridge stations (where Tuvok and Kim used to be). Cold, plain steel. I can't imagine that being a nice place to work in for years. Especially compared to the warm yet advanced Voyager-nil bridge.
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Well, it features. Which is more than cetacean ops ever did in TNG despite taking up more of the Enterprise-D's interior...
Why not?
That's not a forest, it's arboreal ops. It is to life support what cetacean ops is to stellar cartography.
The warp core should be located in the star drive section, not the saucer section.
Maybe someone can post some pics of the bridge to see if there's more than this one pic shows?
#1 I mean functionally. Why have it if it takes up so much internal space?
#2 If the warp core goes critical, saucer sep. probably not going to help.
#3 In the pic, it's a forest. Look how tall those trees are.
1. We don't even know what Cet-Ops actually does. Voyager is traditionally a science vessel, so they probably need it to do science things.
2. There is no evidence this ship can separate its saucer to begin with?
3. That space is barely 3 decks, and seems to span about 3 of the main bridge lengths. This is far from a forest. There are 3-story trees in the parking lot of my office. It's barely a park.
Cet-ops is typically used for navigation.
In fairness, I think this function is a bit outdated considering the fact they have extremely powerful sensors for that...
But, I suspect the Cet-Ops goes beyond that. It gives a change intelligent non-humanoid animals to participate on equal terms in exploration, and it can act as a support mechanism when primary systems are non-functional (which is pretty much when the Cet-Ops was used in Prodigy S2).
#1 True, but I just feel like the ship needs to be a lot bigger if it's going to have this massive facility dedicated to one or a few whales.
#2 Fair enough, but throughout all of Star Trek, the whole point of the engineering hull is to keep the warp core AWAY from the saucer section.
#3 I count about 40 trees in a room spanning 3 decks. We have scale, because nearby, we have the bridge showing the Captain's Chair. If you stand in the middle of the room, it's going to look like you're in the forest. I'll give you it's a small forest, but still a forest. My question remains: why is there a forest? I'm not objecting, just asking. Take a look!!!
It's probably the same reason the Enterprise-D has an arboretum? A place that doubles as a space for people to relax and be around *real* trees and plants, and also a space to study those same things. It could be that Starfleet ship design has evolved into allowing more greenspaces like this for the crew, like a city that once had no parks decides to expand their greenspace area and build more parks. The answer to your question to me is...because it's nice?
The Enterprise-D's arboretum was basically just a big garden. However, given how massive the Ent-D is, I wouldn't be surprised if it had a "mini forest" inside.
If we're talking specifically about Voyager-A or the Lamaar-class, I suppose you could ague that it's necessary for good mental health when your spaceship is big enough to have room for a mini-forest. You can "go outside" (kind of) without being on the holodeck and knowing it's all fake. The nature is "real" and lets you kind of go outside, like a small park next to a hospital for patients to just chill in.
Indeed, the windows are only blue when you're looking up from below at the artificial-sky ceiling.
I always loved this concept. A shame we never got to see it proper from inside or out. Any fan art showing this?
This is not really an issue I have because I get it, but I kinda keep thinking is every Voyager going to look like some variant of the original? The A and the J look like Voyager Junior. Where's the big fucking fat Enterprise-D version of the Voyager?
Well, there's only been three so far. The original, the A on Prodigy, and the J on Discovery. I don't acknowledge the B, because I didn't see it in Picard, and I was looking for it all season.
I always thought it was a swimming pool, as a kid.
Imho, the A is so far the least Voyager-looking ship in the lineage. The Lamarr class stands out among the Intrepid, Pathfinder and Janeway class ships for being the only one without pivoting nacelles.
For fun, I used STO ships to fill in the gaps in future ships in the lineage, trying to grab Voyager-looking ones. In that regard, Voyager-A would stylistically be the "Enterprise-D" of the lineage, Imho.
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It only shows up for for a few seconds when Raffi is doing her google searches in Episode 1:
The-A looks more like a Sovereign to me than an Intrepid. Like it does borrow some Intrepid elements, but it borrows a lot more from the Sovereign.
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