I did too, but I grew up reading Diane Duane's Dark Mirror, and thus had the idea of (alien) dolphin crewmembers on the E-D long before Lower Decks.
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Cetacean ops has to be mentioned a few times on TNG, or maybe I'm misremembering.
It was mentioned in the TNG Technical Manual too, which was published while TNG was still on air.
Also in "The Perfect Mate" as somewhere the Ferengi may want to visit, if I remember rightly.
I think we have to talk about the V-A's bridge. It's pretty dreadful, bare metal genetic sci-fi about as cosy as a freezer unit.
What went on there was fantastic so totally forgiven, but compared to the unique Protostar and even the Dauntless, the Voyager-A's command centre is right up there with the Enterprise-C's.
What went on there was fantastic so totally forgiven, but compared to the unique Protostar and even the Dauntless, the Voyager-A's command centre is right up there with the Enterprise-C's.
I have to agree.
It seems that Starfleet took a 'more utilitarian' and 'less cosy' turn for bridge designs on some ships (although this is tied to real life design choices from the show's creators).
To be fair, despite the Protostar bridge being unique, its also very metallic in look everywhere... no carpets to speak of (that could be a major issue with starship interiors in the very late 24th century.
Original Voyager had carpets, and I dunno, but they seem to add a bit of cosy effect to the overall workspace which I think is something that's badly needed considering how many hrs people spend in there.
I know some people have described the ENT-D as a 'flying hotel', but just because it created a comforting environment to work in, it doesn't mean the people on it or the ship itself were 'weak'.
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There's also a door sticker in a couple episodes. On the door down the set hall from the holodecks.
Possibly a temporary/test bridge, like the Excelsior's original bridge in Star Trek III: The Search for Spock? Just enough for a short mission to test the ship's capabilities?
It is an oddity though, and it has very little in common with Voyager's bridge. And it doesn't even have the Enterprise-C's excuse of having very limited physical set resources.
By that logic, the Enterprise-A's bridge didn't have much in common with the original E's bridge, and the E-D's bridge didn't resemble any of its predecessors, nor did the E-E's bridge resemble the E-D's.
The Enterprise-A bridge was a believable evolution of her predecessor's, especially if we factor in the A's original bridge glimpsed at the end of Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home and the idea that Starfleet backported some of the technological developments of the Excelsior back into the Enterprise-A.
While it's true the Enterprise-D bridge didn't look like any of its predecessors – especially not the awful Enterprise-C bridge – it also wasn't "generic starship bridge-y", with a distinct personality, and it had a definite logic and flow and rationale to its design. Arguably it is the only bridge where the design went back to first principles and asked "what does commanding a starship actually involve".
The Enterprise-E bridge in my opinion has the same issue as the Voyager-A in that its bridge suffers greatly from being far too "generic starship bridge-y", and not incorporating more from its predecessor. It has no personality.
Speaking of the Voyager-A bridge being a bit... blah...
I just found this concept bridge from Ian Burke on ArtStation. It's supposed to be a concept bridge for the Voyager-J, but it seems far too "24th century" to me for that. On the other hand, with a couple of minor tweaks it would work brilliantly for the Voyager-A, especially with the darker colour scheme. A believable evolution of the original Voyager bridge.
I just found this concept bridge from Ian Burke on ArtStation. It's supposed to be a concept bridge for the Voyager-J, but it seems far too "24th century" to me for that. On the other hand, with a couple of minor tweaks it would work brilliantly for the Voyager-A, especially with the darker colour scheme. A believable evolution of the original Voyager bridge.
Perhaps Voyager-B?Speaking of the Voyager-A bridge being a bit... blah...
I just found this concept bridge from Ian Burke on ArtStation. It's supposed to be a concept bridge for the Voyager-J, but it seems far too "24th century" to me for that. On the other hand, with a couple of minor tweaks it would work brilliantly for the Voyager-A, especially with the darker colour scheme. A believable evolution of the original Voyager bridge.
When the time comes to see a proper 32nd century bridge, I'm hoping for something familiar yet alien.
Sure, that also works.
Does Book's ship's bridge count? I suppose it's the closest we've seen.
This definitely has original VOY vibes to it.Speaking of the Voyager-A bridge being a bit... blah...
I just found this concept bridge from Ian Burke on ArtStation. It's supposed to be a concept bridge for the Voyager-J, but it seems far too "24th century" to me for that. On the other hand, with a couple of minor tweaks it would work brilliantly for the Voyager-A, especially with the darker colour scheme. A believable evolution of the original Voyager bridge.
With changes to the colour schemes to match more original VOY, it could easily serve as VOY-A.
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Cetacean ops takes up a lot of space: is it worth it?
Why is the warp core in the saucer?
Why does the ship have a forest?
Don't think distance plays much of a role in plasma distribution on a self-enclosed system like a starship.
Energy is delivered to different areas of the ship via the EPS grid in the form of PLASMA... when you increase power output from the warp core to certain systems, it increases there simultaneously.
Electricity propagates at close to the speed of light.
Laser induced plasma propagates at speeds of 2.5 - 3 km per second.
Fusion generated plasma seems to propagate at speeds of 1000 - 15,000 km/s.
I have no idea at what speed Warp plasma propagates, but it would likely be at least the same/similar like it is for fusion - meaning that it would reach the nacelles in an extremely short amount of time and any changes to power output would be 'felt' for all intents and purposes in real time.
Bottom line is, I don't think it matters how close to the nacelles the Warp core is.
Most previous designs followed a certain structure yes, possibly in part due to tradition... but VOY-A is a different class of ships... so its possible that SF decided to experiment a bit with Warp core placement on this particular design (and who's to say that no other ships in the fleet didn't have different placements of the Warp core).
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