The Gorn: A good enemy?

[Death Ray]

As a merciless, Xenomorph-like threat, the Gorn seem to me to be too monstrous to be good Trek villains. You can't invite them onto the ship, and you certainly can't have a rapprochement with creatures that want to lay eggs in your face.

Has this series tried to introduce a new Klingon/Romulan-style villain species yet?

 

[HotRod]

As a merciless, Xenomorph-like threat, the Gorn seem to me to be too monstrous to be good Trek villains. You can't invite them onto the ship, and you certainly can't have a rapprochement with creatures that want to lay eggs in your face.

Has this series tried to introduce a new Klingon/Romulan-style villain species yet?

Well, up until last week, we had only seen SNW Gorn babies, which weren't all that far off from human babies, in that they mostly wanted to spit up in your face and cause destruction.

With the Adults, They're clearly an advanced species with access to Warp drive, Transporters, powerful weapons, etc. If they can do all this, I see no reason why we can't communicate and interact with them in a less...... animalistic fashion.

 

[Oddish]

I think that the original Borg and the Dominion were stronger enemies than the Gorn (so far). But they beat the Romulans, Cardassians, Suliban, Pakleds, or any of Voyager's attempts at a big bad.

 

[Death Ray]

Well, up until last week, we had only seen SNW Gorn babies, which weren't all that far off from human babies, in that they mostly wanted to spit up in your face and cause destruction.

With the Adults, They're clearly an advanced species with access to Warp drive, Transporters, powerful weapons, etc. If they can do all this, I see no reason why we can't communicate and interact with them in a less...... animalistic fashion.

I think the unspoken deficit is what we can call the "Species 8947 issue". It's tough to have emotional encounters with gigantic CGI creatures. I invite SNW to try, but I sure would like a new race with rubber appliances on their noses. The Gorn are good for action and horror, but not moral conundrums or political issues.

 

[HotRod]

I think the unspoken deficit is what we can call the "Species 8947 issue". It's tough to have emotional encounters with gigantic CGI creatures. I invite SNW to try, but I sure would like a new race with rubber appliances on their noses. The Gorn are good for action and horror, but not moral conundrums or political issues.

Ah, but the Adult Gorn wasn't CGI. Just a big dude in a big ass suit. Hopefully they maintain that fact in the future.

 

[Death Ray]

Ah, but the Adult Gorn wasn't CGI. Just a big dude in a big ass suit. Hopefully they maintain that fact in the future.

I'll be all-in on the Gorn if it leads to the crossover event they seem to be telegraphing.

 

[Ronald Held]

Do not care for the ignoring of canon from TOS.

 

[Death Ray]

Do not care for the ignoring of canon from TOS.

And I'll be honest: I'd prefer rubber Gorn suits. Think of how awesome it would be to showcase an animatronic Gorn suit made with today's technology against the original costume? Cuh MONNNNN! If Farscape could do it...!

 

[flandry84]

If they can get past the usual problem of overuse of an enemy.See how the Borg were almost rendered toothless and learn from that.
The Orions are pretty much a joke and the Cardassians carry too much baggage.The Romulans are pretty canon-bound (as I suppose were the Gorn).Ferengi-no,Talarians?
So it looks down to the Gorn.But if they are to be an enemy let them for once be an irredeemable enemy.

 

[Death Ray]

If they can get past the usual problem of overuse of an enemy.See how the Borg were almost rendered toothless and learn from that.
The Orions are pretty much a joke and the Cardassians carry too much baggage.The Romulans are pretty canon-bound (as I suppose were the Gorn).Ferengi-no,Talarians?
So it looks down to the Gorn.But if they are to be an enemy let them for once be an irredeemable enemy.

Well, they introduced the Ferengi on TNG before they arrived at the Borg... and the Romulans and Cardassians were also regular features. There doesn't have to be only ONE bad guy species. I just hope they give us some choices.

 

[Midquest]

And I'll be honest: I'd prefer rubber Gorn suits. Think of how awesome it would be to showcase an animatronic Gorn suit made with today's technology against the original costume? Cuh MONNNNN! If Farscape could do it...!

Isn't that exactly what they did in the Season 2 finale, though?

 

[Death Ray]

Isn't that exactly what they did in the Season 2 finale, though?

Was that actually a suit? Well, shut me mouth! There was definitely some CG involved, however.

Have they shown an animatronic adult Gorn in other episodes?

 

[fireproof78]

Isn't that exactly what they did in the Season 2 finale, though?

They did. Ready Room from the episode breaks it down.

 

[HotRod]

Was that actually a suit?

There was definitely some CG involved, however.

As far as I can tell, only the tail was cgi.

Have they shown an animatronic adult Gorn in other episodes?

Nope. Last week was the first appearance of an adult Gorn in SNW.

 

[Mudd]

The Gorn are a great enemy so far.

I suspect that the show will move off its focus on the Gorn as next season goes along.

God knows we don't need another Klingon/Romulan/Cardassian clone race. All those moves are the same after awhile. No one takes them seriously at all.

 

[Annorax849]

As a merciless, Xenomorph-like threat, the Gorn seem to me to be too monstrous to be good Trek villains. You can't invite them onto the ship, and you certainly can't have a rapprochement with creatures that want to lay eggs in your face.

Has this series tried to introduce a new Klingon/Romulan-style villain species yet?

Like I mentioned in another thread, the Gorn almost seem like this show’s version of The Borg in how they’re presented. The difference being they’re might be at least some sort of understanding down the line.

 

[Annorax849]

If they can get past the usual problem of overuse of an enemy.See how the Borg were almost rendered toothless and learn from that.
The Orions are pretty much a joke and the Cardassians carry too much baggage.The Romulans are pretty canon-bound (as I suppose were the Gorn).Ferengi-no,Talarians?
So it looks down to the Gorn.But if they are to be an enemy let them for once be an irredeemable enemy.

Tholians?

 

[Death Ray]

Like I mentioned in another thread, the Gorn almost seem like this show’s version of The Borg in how they’re presented. The difference being they’re might be at least some sort of understanding down the line.

Am I the first one to notice that the Gorn are being portrayed a lot like the Magog from Andromeda?

 

[Ithekro]

Sheliak are basically unknown aside for them being very much hooked on legalities. The treat signed with them would be around this time.

 

[Saul]

The Gorn could be a good enemy but they have no character, no leader, no face to represent their threat. They are just a big bad monsters, ripped off from Aliens, which are coming to get you. Any alien species can be like that but what makes them Gorn? We know the personality traits of Klingons, Romulans, Ferengi. We know the goals of the Borg. I can't find the interesting point of the Gorn in SNW yet.