Spoilers Star Trek: Prodigy 1x06 - "Kobayashi"
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This is probably the stupidest question of all time, but: Gates McFadden's lines were newly recorded for this episode, weren't they?
Gates McFadden did record new lines, yeah.
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I loved the old characters being used as NPC's for the test, brilliant. But the obvious "cut and paste" of their lines from prior episodes took me out of it a little bit. Even Gates sounded a little weird and all of her stuff was new.
BTW...Dal beat the scenario without cheating.
The program had to throw a battle cruiser at him to make it a "no win".
I loved the old characters being used as NPC's for the test, brilliant. But the obvious "cut and paste" of their lines from prior episodes took me out of it a little bit. Even Gates sounded a little weird and all of her stuff was new.
BTW...Dal beat the scenario without cheating.
The program had to throw a battle cruiser at him to make it a "no win".
He also had almost 50 shots at it...where most cadets only take it once or twice it would seem.
I like how it felt like a kid trying to beat a really hard level of a video game.
I think it was over 100 tries. If the average run was as long as the ones we saw he spent maybe 4-5 hours in there. Really he should've been streaming it on Twitch.
Well behind on this one, apologies if I repeat oft mentioned points.
Odd that they seemingly used the finished episodes as audio sources rather than raw audio. You could hear the thrum of DS9 quite prominently under at least one of Odo's lines. I guess it was out of the question (time and money) to go into the vaults for this ep.
I'm also surprised at how close to AC/DC's Thunderstruck that song was. I guess they couldn't afford the real one, but for a "don't sue!" fake it was awfully similar.
Odd that they seemingly used the finished episodes as audio sources rather than raw audio. You could hear the thrum of DS9 quite prominently under at least one of Odo's lines. I guess it was out of the question (time and money) to go into the vaults for this ep.
I'm also surprised at how close to AC/DC's Thunderstruck that song was. I guess they couldn't afford the real one, but for a "don't sue!" fake it was awfully similar.
Yep, definitely over 100. They say "Attempt number 99" at one point well before it's over.
That is the point of it after all. To alter events so that no approach can be successful.
They did actually go into the vaults. This is apparently the cleanest audio they could get.
Here's a comparison so you can hear what the dialogue would've sounded like if it'd been taken straight out of the episodes:
Here's a comparison so you can hear what the dialogue would've sounded like if it'd been taken straight out of the episodes:
Interesting, thank you for the correction and the link!
I'm more perplexed than ever now over the one Odo line as it is from a scene that wasn't even on DS9! ("I'm resigning my commission") And yet in the PRO version, there is a background thrum that only happens when Odo says the line, disappearing the instant he stops speaking. Fascinating.
I'm more perplexed than ever now over the one Odo line as it is from a scene that wasn't even on DS9! ("I'm resigning my commission") And yet in the PRO version, there is a background thrum that only happens when Odo says the line, disappearing the instant he stops speaking. Fascinating.
I personally can't hear it.
I was wondering if that speech about saving face before the crew was from "The Enemy Within". Also the episode where Spock seemed to be joking with Rand about how "evil" Kirk tried to rape her. When I watched that episode as an adult, I found it very odd that Spock was bullying half a Kirk into taking control even though he knew wishy-washy "good" Kirk was incapable of it. I don't think it made sense for him to be lecturing Dal about looking good in front of a crew. Wasn't the ship destroyed at that point, too? Was that Spock aware it was a hologram in a training course, as it seemed to not react to the destruction of their ship?
The episode implied that the holograms remembered every attempt, so if they weren't aware at first, they would've definitely realised what was up by the 112th try.
Its possible/likely that the holodeck characters have the capacity to remember previous attempts if its a training scenario with the same person... makes it easier to adapt to a situation (eventually) and for the person running the program to get more familiar with the holo-crew.
Great, fun episode. The nostalgia was a natural fit rather than shoehorned in. The differences in audio quality were distracting, but understandable and worth it. Loved it on many levels.
My only gripe is that Gwyn's "language" is clearly C (or a similar programming language). It's pretty distracting to look at an "alien language" and see Latin characters, much less EXPORT_SYMBOL and sizeof commands.
https://imgur.com/a/swriV38
Though at least the Vau N'Kat appear to run Linux, as opposed to Discovery running on Windows when they showed C code in "Context Is for Kings".
My only gripe is that Gwyn's "language" is clearly C (or a similar programming language). It's pretty distracting to look at an "alien language" and see Latin characters, much less EXPORT_SYMBOL and sizeof commands.
https://imgur.com/a/swriV38
Though at least the Vau N'Kat appear to run Linux, as opposed to Discovery running on Windows when they showed C code in "Context Is for Kings".
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I'm sure Gwyn will create a GUI interface in Visual Basic to track her father's IP address before the end of the season.
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i’m sure that the K&R is a required reading at the academy.
The author of the episode, Aaron J. Waltke, confirmed that they were meant as Easter Eggs, and mentioned basically what you said here, explaining it:
Aaron J. Waltke said:
Hah, that's awesome. I like this guy!
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