Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 1x02 - "Maps and Legends"

[Datasbeard]

<=== Night Owl.
3am is usually when I'm just starting to think about going to bed.

I think last week it was up already by at least 2:30. So there’s some hope for the rest of us.

 

[Crewman6]

Better would be GMT. Would be out already. Damn America for always being so slow.

The show's made by Americans with American money. You're lucky we're even bothering to let the rest of the world take a look!

USA!
USA!

 

[Nightowl1701]

• Is Dahj really dead? It's been speculated that maybe she got uploaded to somewhere and can be resurrected (I won't call the show Capricard or BSP just yet). Or perhaps she can be recreated somehow from a fragment of something. A cheater of death? Someone like that could change everything. Coming back from the dead is nothing new for Trek, so what kind of angle might this offer in order to make it mean something?

• Is there a coverup? Romulans beam down to Starfleet headquarters, kill someone in an explosion and leave without a trace. Are they good at disappearing or did they have help from the inside?

• Why did Bruce Maddox disappear? And will he turn up again?

• What ungodly manner of dark experiments is being carried out inside the borg cube?

• Why did the synths destroy Mars? Was that another inside job from Starfleet? That's a big one right there. What happened with Romulus and Mars left me a bit shaken. Imagine… Starfleet is building ships to rescue the population of Romulus. Then a terrorist attack destroys the shipyards and the people of Romulus know that they now have no way to get off their planet and will soon die in a supernova. Talk about a death sentence. But why did Starfleet withdraw support after that? Our lone man Picard will get to the bottom of this.

My hot take: Yes, Dahj is definitely dead. This is now about finding and saving her sister from the same fate. Picard failed one, he will not fail the other.

Who needs a coverup when you've got the Tal Shiar? As for whether Mars was an inside job, or what's going on in the Borg cube - we'll have to wait and see.

Yes, we will see Bruce Maddox before the season is out.

From the 'Picard: Countdown' comic (which one of the show's writers did contribute to), seems like the Romulans were living down to all of Starfleet's fears/prejudices about them in the rescue effort: "We'd rather die than accept your help. That or we'll stab you in the back first chance we get." Hence after the Mars attack Starfleet decided "Screw it, they're more trouble than they were ever worth. This frog isn't letting the scorpion ride on its back."

(That comic, btw, heavily implies that Geordi LaForge - working as chief engineer on the rescue fleet building - died in the Mars attack.)

 

[eschaton]

<=== Night Owl.
3am is usually when I'm just starting to think about going to bed.

When I was 22? Sure thing! Now I'm 40, I have a job, and I have kids, so that sort of thing is just out of the question.

 

[fireproof78]

When I was 22? Sure thing! Now I'm a dad, I have a job, and I have kids, so that sort of thing is just out of the question.

No kidding. 11 PM is pushing it. 3 AM? Fuck that.

 

[Datasbeard]

No kidding. 11 PM is pushing it. 3 AM? Fuck that.

Yes, same. Although, last week I did wake up at 3am, watch the episode twice, and then go down to make breakfast for the fam…

 

[Enterprise is Great]

Hopefully it drops early like last week. I started the episode around 11:30 PM PST

 

[Lord Garth]

Hawaiians are the luckiest. They'll be able to watch, as soon as it drops, during a normal hour in the evening.

Yet another reason to want to go to Hawaii. Besides the weather, the overall atmosphere, and the luaus. We need music to go with this...

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[Krandor]

a little over 5 hours until captain picard day.

As for the title, I wonder if the Legends part means that this will be when picard visits starfleet HQ. The legend trying to go home.

 

[Quinton]

32 years young here and definitely staying up until 3AM EST to watch.

Buuut I'm presently single and entire kidless so the only one who will suffer for my poor choices tomorrow is me. And I am a glutton for punishment. :P

 

[Midquest]

Another 32-year-old checking in. I'll be up grading student papers until 2 am at least, and, well...this might be one of the rare times having to grade papers into the wee hours is, in fact, a perk.

 

[NCC-73515]

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That's a very formal Romulan rockstar XD

 

[Lord Garth]

The argument between Picard and the Admiral will be good. Not "I'm getting my men" good, but it should be pretty damn close. Once he gets into "What Starfleet should STILL REPRESENT!" Mode, that's it.

 

[thribs]

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Surely Red Matter is the greatest weapon in the galaxy?

 

[cooleddie74]

The greatest weapon in the galaxy is a Trek nerd who's been told that one of his favorite starships has been given incorrect detailing.

 

[rhllot]

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black romulan! nice

 

[Datasbeard]

black romulan! nice

We have seen black Romulans before, though sadly not very many. Commander Sirol, from “The Pegasus”, is a notable example.

 

[picardjean-luc]

The argument between Picard and the Admiral will be good. Not "I'm getting my men" good, but it should be pretty damn close. Once he gets into "What Starfleet should STILL REPRESENT!" Mode, that's it.

I'm curious whether the Admiral would be revealed as an officer we have seen in either TNG, DS9, or VOY, like Elizabeth Shelby from 'Best of Both Worlds' episode or would she be just another random evil Starfleet Admiral .

 

[WarpFactorZ]

When she was called Destroyer I kept thinking Destroyer of worlds from Agents of Shield.

Isn't that from the Bhagavad Gita?

 

[Jesse1066]

I'm curious whether the Admiral would be revealed as an officer we have seen in either TNG, DS9, or VOY, like Elizabeth Shelby from 'Best of Both Worlds' episode or would she be just another random evil Starfleet Admiral .

Her name is apparently Admiral Clancy.