News Star Trek: Discovery Season Two: The Red Angel

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[Lord Garth]

All sounds good! Bring on the Red.

 

[Vger23]

Doesn't the Red Angel have a beard?

 

[Lord Garth]

Spoilers.

 

[Vger23]

Spoilers.

Quite right...quite right.

 

[F. King Daniel]

"Some sort of completion" gives me pause. I want all the completion.

 

[Agony_Boothb]

"Some sort of completion" gives me pause. I want all the completion.

It could just mean that the season ends on a cliffhanger. Relax.

 

[Garth Rockett]

"Some sort of completion" gives me pause. I want all the completion.

In context, Doug Jones was talking about each of the seven signals starting a new storyline. It sounds like we will have seven mini-arcs, one around each signal. Each will have “some sort of completion” so that they could be enjoyed on their own, but the overarching plot connecting all seven continues through the entire season.

The big resolution will be at the end, but each segment will have enough resolution to be enjoyed separately. That’s how I interpreted it.

 

[XCV330]

I keep hearing Red Angel Dragnet, by the Clash

 

[Lord Garth]

I'm already planning the Musical Selection for the 2nd Annual Golden Gormaganders. The red theme and the angels are giving me a lot to work with.

 

[mirrormatt86]

It's all mirror universe...?

 

[bolak]

Ah, the Tiny Universe Scenario again. Inhabited by no more than 100 souls and of course they all know each other and have had the same dreams.

I often think some astronomer should sit-down with writers and explain the boggling magnitude of our galaxy alone. Then a mathematician could give a lecture about probability.

 

[saddestmoon]

I reckon red angels, and red signals, are also somehow going to relate to Spock’s use of Red Matter in the Kelvinverse Trek 09.

Connecting tissue, so to speak - across the movie verse, Kelvinverse, Prime timeline, and of course the Discoverse.

 

[Tuskin38]

I reckon red angels, and red signals, are also somehow going to relate to Spock’s use of Red Matter in the Kelvinverse Trek 09.

Connecting tissue, so to speak - across the movie verse, Kelvinverse, Prime timeline, and of course the Discoverse.

I doubt it. That’s paramount’s sand box and they’re not involved with this show.

And discovery is the prime universe

Ah, the Tiny Universe Scenario again. Inhabited by no more than 100 souls and of course they all know each other and have had the same dreams.

Eh? Only Spock had those dreams.

Michael only encounters them because that was their mission to find them.

It's all mirror universe...?

No

 

[saddestmoon]

I doubt it. That’s paramount’s sand box and they’re not involved with this show.

And discovery is the prime universe

Well, I’d still suggest it to be a possibility, if not for the reason because Kurtzman was involved in Trek 09 and now Discoverse season 2 - and establishing an overarching connection between ‘verses’ is very much in his MO.

I realise it’s a long shot, but it’s still one that I think may have legs...

https://www.google.co.nz/amp/s/vari...s-cbs-discovery-alex-kurtzman-1202842335/amp/

 

[Tuskin38]

Well, I’d still suggest it to be a possibly, if not for the reason because Kurtzman was involved in Trek 09 and now Discoverse season 2 - and establishing an overarching connection between ‘verses’ is very much in his MO.

I realise it’s a long shot, but it’s still one that I think may have legs...

https://www.google.co.nz/amp/s/vari...s-cbs-discovery-alex-kurtzman-1202842335/amp/

I find it very unlikely because of the reasoning I gave above.

 

[Lord Garth]

In light of the Picard Series, DSC will be moving closer to TNG, if anything.

Most of the influences from the Kelvin Films have been shed or are being shed:

• Bald Klingons being the biggest influence on DSC, since a hairless one was the most prominent one in ID. With Season 2, that's going to be a thing of the past.
• The approach DSC took in updating the Enterprise couldn't be more different from the 2009 film's approach. The Enterprise in DSC looks like an intermediate step between the NX-01 and the TMP Refit. The Enterprise in the JJ Abrams films, while still recognizable, is very much its own thing.
• From the beginning, DSC was said to take place in the Prime Timeline, and the reboot now came to be referred to as the Kelvin Timeline. So now those films are off on their own island.

The influences that are being kept look to be:

• Not shying away from present-day pop culture.
• The bridges having a front window.
• Having a faster pace and more action.

Otherwise, over time, Discovery and the Abrams Films are going to keep moving further and further apart from each other. I don't see them coming together and merging into one. Legalities or not.

 

[Vger23]

In light of the Picard Series, DSC will be moving closer to TNG, if anything.

Most of the influences from the Kelvin Films have been shed or are being shed:

• Bald Klingons being the biggest influence on DSC, since a hairless one was the most prominent one in ID. With Season 2, that's going to be a thing of the past.
• The approach DSC took in updating the Enterprise couldn't be more different from the 2009 film's approach. The Enterprise in DSC looks like an intermediate step between the NX-01 and the TMP Refit. The Enterprise in JJ Abrams films, while still recognizable, is very much its own thing.
• From the beginning, DSC was said to take place in the Prime Timeline, and the reboot now came to be referred to as the Kelvin Timeline. So now those films are off in their own island.

The influences that are being kept look to be:

• Not shying away from present-day pop culture.
• The bridges having a front window.
• Having a faster pace and more action.

Otherwise, over time, Discovery and the Abrams Films are going to keep moving further and further apart from each other. I don't see them coming together and merging into one. Legalities or not.

I'm not sure that I'm convinced that we will even see another Kelvinverse film.

CBS AA series? Different story!

 

[saddestmoon]

Just to clarify: I don’t believe Discovery is heading towards being in the same timeline as that which the Kelvinverse exists in - more broadly speaking - I believe the red signals are the reference point relating to red matter that Old Prime Spock used in Trek 09 - which invariably led to the creation of the Kelvin timeline.

So Discovery is now showing us a version of younger Spock (in what is asserted to be the TOS) and the personal connection he has with these red signals, and ‘angel’ - which may be sowing seeds of how came about to possess / have access to Red Matter - and which he later uses (in one possible timeline) in the Prime events of Trek 09 (if that makes sense)?

Discovery has already established the concept of multiple realities and timelines / verses via the spore drive plot line, so I believe red matter / signals / angels will be that connecting tissue between some of these realities explicit by the end of season 2.

Also - I don’t think that the Discoverse is going to become the Kelvinverse (they do stand apart as storylines, studios or otherwise, and moving further away from each other in plot, etc.) but will still be connected via Spock, red matter and associated signals / angels, etc. I also do not think that we ever see a direct crossing over into the Kelvinverse either.

Just speculation on my part.

 

[Tuskin38]

Before it was revealed that Spock had dreams about the angels, I assumed they were connected to the Spore drive usage.
Though there is nothing stopping that being related.