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Star Trek 5
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A re-edit should also cut out all the "glitch" scenes.
It wouldn't be too hard to edit the turbolift scene...
Plus, though the Okudas missed it in their Chronology and tried to connect the reference to the Excelsior...I always took the reference in the TNG episode "Evolution" (the first new episode after the summer that TFF was in theaters) to the last all-systems malfunction aboard a starship having taken place 79 years prior to be a reference to the problems that the "A" was having in TFF...which, according to the Chronology, did take place exactly 79 years prior.
Well, but the Enterprise-A didn't suffer an all-systems failure. While it may be frustrating to have turbolift doors get jammed or for the log recorder to digitally vomit, the important systems such as warp drive, sensors, tactical computers, deflectors, and photon torpedoes were just fine, and for all we know phasers might have been too. (They're not used in the movie so there's no definitive answer.)
The only critical system not working was the transporter. But that had an acceptable backup in the shuttles which were doing just fine, and the malfunction was clearly a touch-and-go matter. Scott needed more time than it took to get to Nimbus III to get it running, but these things are always kind of quirky (see about a half-dozen episodes of the original series) and it may have been a realistic estimate that Scott would probably be able to get it running in time.
The only critical system not working was the transporter. But that had an acceptable backup in the shuttles which were doing just fine, and the malfunction was clearly a touch-and-go matter. Scott needed more time than it took to get to Nimbus III to get it running, but these things are always kind of quirky (see about a half-dozen episodes of the original series) and it may have been a realistic estimate that Scott would probably be able to get it running in time.
The transporter always seemed to be out at the most inopportune moments in TOS...
trevanian
Rear Admiral
I don't see how the new work 'holds up' any better in HD when it doesn't even hold up when compared to the regular rez. SOME of the new shots don't look glaringly cartoonish, but there's still way too much fill light and not anywhere near enough dynamic range in most that I've seen, and none of them have the real bold contrast and snap of many original TOS model shots, where you really see a big strong key light on a physical shape that overflows the camera view as it comes to fill the screen. That's still the huge advantage of a very large model over even a very well detailed small one or most CG I've seen so far -- that the taking camera view being overwhelmed by the physical size of the model is something that can't really be duplicated, regardless of technology (though I'm damned if I can figure out why.)
Please note that I'm not defending visible or poor matte lines from TOS, but I AM saying that if they had to mess with the show (for 'future viewers' or whatever the excuse), they could have recomped the original elements digitally and had 35mm elements -- which are roughly like 4k imagery, WAY above HD resolution -- that retained that TOS bold look without turning it into the distracting (and for me) unwatchable interuption that the new fx have become.
Of course for all I know, TOS-DRCOE (digitally recomped original elements) might be Paramount's plan for the 50th anniversary, when they need to run something new (somethingold/somethingnew) past the viewers to buy yet again.
The original elements? It is my understanding these no longer exist.
trevanian
Rear Admiral
There have been a lot of threads about this over the years, including a few I remember during the years when I was absent from posting here, so I've got no place to point to say "i heard it there." Even so, I'm pretty damn sure that most if not all of the original elements from the run of the series were kept in a belowground vault, much like the music that turned up during the 80s.
The reason I remember it was because I was astonished to hear it, especially given that Paramount wouldn't pay to store Apogee and EEG elements from TMP, so at least the EEG stuff got tossed during the early 80s.
Why keep stuff from the Desilu era but not stuff that had potentially greater recyclability?
if anybody can shed additional light either way, it'd be useful. If I'm wrong that the original elements are gone for TOS, then my argument for recomping goes with it, but that was honestly based on stuff I'd read here in years preceding this whole remastered/remesssed-with business. And as I recall, I wasn't even in favor of recomping at the time, though considering the alternative we wound up with now, in retrospect I should have carried signs and placards across the land for recomping.
The reason I remember it was because I was astonished to hear it, especially given that Paramount wouldn't pay to store Apogee and EEG elements from TMP, so at least the EEG stuff got tossed during the early 80s.
Why keep stuff from the Desilu era but not stuff that had potentially greater recyclability?
if anybody can shed additional light either way, it'd be useful. If I'm wrong that the original elements are gone for TOS, then my argument for recomping goes with it, but that was honestly based on stuff I'd read here in years preceding this whole remastered/remesssed-with business. And as I recall, I wasn't even in favor of recomping at the time, though considering the alternative we wound up with now, in retrospect I should have carried signs and placards across the land for recomping.
