Spoilers ST Prodigy - StarShips & Technology Season 1 Discussion
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Potentially, yes. It looks like they didn't change any (or many) of the stock CG models they borrowed. So we have the Sovereign, Defiant, and Centaur with their assigned registries, on all the copy paste ships. Likewise, I'm guessing the Akiras are all emblazoned as the USS Thunderchild.
I didn't clock the Enterprise-E, so either it's a deliberate Easter Egg or it was another model they used for the episode (or an error on the one model they did use). Still, I'm guessing that the canon-hounds will be concluding that this means the E-E was indeed on active duty in 2383 (thus cementing its legacy as another Enterprise that lasted longer than the E-D).
Much, MUCH more to come!
Mark
PS - ROTARY TORPEDO LAUNCHER?!?!
I didn't clock the Enterprise-E, so either it's a deliberate Easter Egg or it was another model they used for the episode (or an error on the one model they did use). Still, I'm guessing that the canon-hounds will be concluding that this means the E-E was indeed on active duty in 2383 (thus cementing its legacy as another Enterprise that lasted longer than the E-D).
Much, MUCH more to come!
Mark
PS - ROTARY TORPEDO LAUNCHER?!?!
I've got my fingers crossed for one more surprise starship deep-cut in the finale. The gatling torpedo launcher on the Akira in action was pretty cool.
I'm guessing all the Sovereigns have "NCC-1701-E" on the nacelles, and it just wasn't caught when it was redressed with a less famous name. I remember it wasn't uncommon for Trek video games to have "baked" registries in less-conspicuous parts of the ship, even if the prominent ones were customized. Like, in Starfleet Academy, all of the Constitution-class ships had "Enterprise" below the shuttlebay, and all the Mirandas had "Reliant" on the bottom of the saucer behind the center dome.
I'm guessing all the Sovereigns have "NCC-1701-E" on the nacelles, and it just wasn't caught when it was redressed with a less famous name. I remember it wasn't uncommon for Trek video games to have "baked" registries in less-conspicuous parts of the ship, even if the prominent ones were customized. Like, in Starfleet Academy, all of the Constitution-class ships had "Enterprise" below the shuttlebay, and all the Mirandas had "Reliant" on the bottom of the saucer behind the center dome.
Well, the implication so far is that all of Starfleet in 2384 consists only of Sovereigns, Akiras, Defiants and Centaurs (plus one each of the Dauntless and Protostar.) I hope that’s not the case for the finale…And the Klingons still haven’t gotten a new ship design? And the Gorn, Vulcans and Tellarites are still using ships from the 22nd and 23rd centuries?
You find that design and you just never let it go.
Like the Number 2 pencil...
Like the Number 2 pencil...
So, the Enterprise-E might be destroyed in the next episode.
The Defiant could be destroyed and in the future replaced by another ship with the same class/name/registry.
The Dauntless likely survives as Janeway needs a ship on the show and there isn’t another one beyond USS Voyager or USS Prometheus that would make sense for her.
As somebody said, the Thunderchild is still around in 2401.
The USS Sovereign is disposable, though.
Going non-canon, there’s a USS Defiant-C active in 2554 according to STO. The Centaur-class USS Centaur itself remains active by 2769.
I hope we can get the name Centaur class canonized.
The Defiant could be destroyed and in the future replaced by another ship with the same class/name/registry.
The Dauntless likely survives as Janeway needs a ship on the show and there isn’t another one beyond USS Voyager or USS Prometheus that would make sense for her.
As somebody said, the Thunderchild is still around in 2401.
The USS Sovereign is disposable, though.
Going non-canon, there’s a USS Defiant-C active in 2554 according to STO. The Centaur-class USS Centaur itself remains active by 2769.
I hope we can get the name Centaur class canonized.
On Masto, Jörg Hillebrand seems to have confirmed that all the Sovereigns are labeled "Sovereign" in the front and "1701-E" on the nacelles, there's a shot where you can see both labels are definitely on the same ship.
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Yeah.. I can begrudge the bird of prey.
But all the 230 year old ships are a but.. Ah No.
And the Gorn from Tos Remaster..
Come on! Not like there wasnt time or that Every trek ship is 3d now..
If you don't have many.. Make the fleet lets say 10 ships. Hell 5, 6 with thr dauntless.
I hope not. I find the lack of originality in naming a ship’s class after the only ship in that class we know about is both lazy and uninspired. But I have a feeling they won’t mention the ship’s class anyway. These ships are just meant to be generic Starfleet vessels that get destroyed.
Klingons seem to keep basic designs for centuries.
The Klingons and other non-Starfleet ships coming to help had lots of bravery to try and tank those phaser shots. At first I was wondering why full-power phasers against unshielded ships only resulted in light to modest damage but since it was a trap to lure in more ships it kinda makes sense that it was not an instant death for the Starfleet ships. Can't lure in ships if they were all blown up. At least that's what I hope the Prodigy team was thinking 
Size wise the Centaurs here seem to be the upscaled excelsior size and not the Miranda sized. 
Since the ships are using bridge windows, I wonder how that works out with the big hull projection directly in front of the bridge?
Maybe I'm not as keen as i once was, but is this the first time we've seen the Pulse phaser emitter on the Defiant?
Since the ships are using bridge windows, I wonder how that works out with the big hull projection directly in front of the bridge?
Maybe I'm not as keen as i once was, but is this the first time we've seen the Pulse phaser emitter on the Defiant?
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I noticed that too. They basically all have the Excelsior bridge module now, as opposed to the Miranda bridge, which really is the lynch-pin for establishing scale. So - two variants. Hopefully one day they'll get official class names. "Baracus"-class works for me for the smaller DS9 variants. 
Why is the Excelsior bridge module superior to the Miranda one?
As with the Sombra-class being identical to the Constitution-class, I'm going to blame this on another Trek Tech meme I hate, people complaining that the impulse engines are too close to nacelles.who needs impulse engines. No wonder none of them were moving around.
So the Centaur has its shuttlebay directly in front of the bridge?
Since the ships are using bridge windows, I wonder how that works out with the big hull projection directly in front of the bridge?
Maybe I'm not as keen as i once was, but is this the first time we've seen the Pulse phaser emitter on the Defiant?
I thought the pulse phasers are right next to the bussard collectors on that front wall of the nacelle.
None of them were real! They were all fakes sent there to trick the construct, cause someone saw the future and warned them - and that's why the hull markings make no sense eitherwho needs impulse engines. No wonder none of them were moving around.
It isn’t. The Miranda bridge dome was what Adam Buckner, who built and then modified the model, used to establish scale relative to the ship engaging the Jem’Hadar fighter. It was Gary Hutzel’s intention that the ship be that small for that scene. The erroneous CGI model originally created for the Star Trek Fact Files and then extrapolated by Eaglemoss did not take into account the modifications to scale the ship smaller. This wasn’t a problem until Prodigy used that model on screen.
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