Spoilers Sleepy Hollow Season 4

[Phoenix219]

I don't understand the need to ship or have a relationship between the two main characters. Didn't care about it on X Files, didn't care about it on Bones, don't care about it here. Katrina was hated for getting in the way of Abby/Ichabod - but she was his WIFE *first and foremost* and she was the McGuffin that drove his quest. How anyone could not expect her to have a main role is beyond me, let alone getting that upset at her existance on the show.

 

[Christopher]

I don't understand the need to ship or have a relationship between the two main characters. Didn't care about it on X Files, didn't care about it on Bones, don't care about it here. Katrina was hated for getting in the way of Abby/Ichabod - but she was his WIFE *first and foremost* and she was the McGuffin that drove his quest. How anyone could not expect her to have a main role is beyond me, let alone getting that upset at her existance on the show.

That was never my problem with Katrina. Ichabod and Abbie were partners and friends and fellow witnesses -- nothing more was necessary on that front. The problem with Katrina was that the actress who played her was the weakest member of the regular cast, and that the writers had trouble finding something to do with her once she was alive in the present day. As you say, she was the Macguffin in season 1, and once she was called on to be more than that in season 2, there just wasn't enough to build on.

 

[Shanndee]

I had hoped that Katrina was a voice from the grave and her purpose was to guide the witnesses. In that limited role she worked fine. When they decided that she was alive and trapped in purgatory, it slowed the show down. When they brought her to the present it completely eliminated the uniqueness of Crane's man out of time story.

The first 7 or 8 episodes definitely had 2 co-leads in Crane and Abby, with others in minor supporting roles. I started to become uneasy when Katrina started to be pushed to the fore in the latter part of S1, but I stayed with the show for 2 more seasons, hoping the show would course correct to what made it special at the start. Alas, it was not to be.

Add to that the fact that the actress who played Katrina was not strong enough to play the new part she was given, the train wreck began. Then they cast an even less skilled actress to play Betsy Ross (and once again bring her to the present...clearly not learning from their mistakes) and the damage was done.

I was here for Abby and Crane fighting the apocalypse, with help from a supporting cast. I was not here to watch Crane and the revolving leading ladies (revolving until they found the correct white woman).

What a waste. This was such a fun, quirky, sometimes creepy, supernatural adventure and TPTB destroyed it in favour of a bland, by the numbers procedural. SMH.

 

[Christopher]

Then they cast an even less skilled actress to play Betsy Ross (and once again bring her to the present...clearly not learning from their mistakes) and the damage was done.

Actually that's the one thing I kept fearing they'd do but that they didn't. Betsy did briefly interact with Crane and Abby in the timeless realm of the catacombs in the finale, but she went back to her own time afterward.

But in a way, keeping her in the past all season made it worse, because it meant they had to keep arbitrarily shoehorning her into Crane's backstory in order to keep her active as a regular character. It got so damn contrived that every single time Ichabod had cause to bring up an event from his past, it always just coincidentally happened to be an event that Betsy Ross was involved with -- even though he'd somehow managed to get through two years' worth of flashbacks without ever bringing her up at all. (I still don't understand how the chronology of his romance with Betsy reconciles with that of his courtship and marriage with Katrina. I'm not convinced they are reconcilable.)

 

[JD]

Yeah, that was main reason I wanted to see them bring Betsy to the present. By the end of the season it had just gotten ridiculous how they had to try to force flashbacks with her into every episode. At least if they brought her to the present it would have given her more to do, and they wouldn't have had to force pointless flashbacks into every episode.

 

[Gryffindorian]

Wow. While I'm glad it's been renewed for a fourth season, I don't know how they can pull this off without Nicole Beharie. The original premise of the show was based on Ichabod Crane and Abbie Mills' relationship as Witnesses battling demons and preventing the apocalypse, and now you've got Crane working for the feds with a Scully-like partner.

 

[Christopher]

Yeah, that was main reason I wanted to see them bring Betsy to the present. By the end of the season it had just gotten ridiculous how they had to try to force flashbacks with her into every episode. At least if they brought her to the present it would have given her more to do, and they wouldn't have had to force pointless flashbacks into every episode.

I just wanted them to realize Betsy Ross was a bad idea and drop her from the show altogether. Since she was already a remnant of the past, it would've been easy enough just to stop bringing her up altogether, to stop having every plotline somehow coincidentally remind Ichabod of one of his missions with Betsy. I didn't want her to have more to do, because it was never remotely interesting to watch her doing anything, least of all trying to act.

 

[Tom Hendricks]

If they went every 3 or 4 episodes before showing Betsy Ross but then had a parallel story going on in the past. Then towards the end, have Betsy story ramp up, where they could have included Betsy more and for Crane to put the two and two together to help him in the future where he failed in the past. That would have been a much better use of Betsy Ross.

 

[Christopher]

That would have been a much better use of Betsy Ross.

Or: Cast someone who could act. That would've been a much better use too.

Or just focus on Abby and Jenny more.

 

[Forbin]

Welp, I discussed it (briefly) with the wife last night, and neither of us care to watch the next season. We both like Tom Mison, but we both REALLY liked Nichole Beharie, and the way they played together. Plus the change of locale sounds ridiculous.

 

[Enterprise is Great]

Janina Gavankar cast as Icabod Crane's new partner - http://tvline.com/2016/07/22/sleepy-hollow-janina-gavankar-cast-season-3-diana/

 

[Christopher]

Ohh... Conflicted... I like Janina Gavankar. But I don't think I like her quite enough to come back to the show.

 

[JD]

As frustrated by all of this as I am, I am at least glad to see that they cast another non-white actress who I like.

 

[RJDiogenes]

Ah, she was Luna on True Blood. I always hoped she'd get another regular gig on a genre show.

 

[Enterprise is Great]

Jeremy Davies to recur - http://tvline.com/2016/08/03/sleepy-hollow-season-4-jeremy-davies-cast-villain-malcolm-dreyfuss/

 

[Mr Light]

Argh! Just when I was out, they pulled me back in!!!

 

[Captain Craig]

Janina Gavankar cast as Icabod Crane's new partner - http://tvline.com/2016/07/22/sleepy-hollow-janina-gavankar-cast-season-3-diana/

She was the shape shifter love interest to Sam in the later seasons of True Blood, good actress. Hopefully the writing staff gives her some good material with which to work.

 

[JD]

Well, at least they're bringing in good actors for the supporting cast.

 

[KennyB]

Anyone catch the premiere last night? I must say I was very pleasantly surprised. The whole episode was pretty damn good IMHO.

 

[Beagleman]

Right there with you, not that bad, Crane is still Crane, the demon was creepy, I like Jeremy Davies and the two nerds have potential. I'm not sold on the new lead, yet.
Abbie will be missed!
Oh, and I would murder for Tom Mison's hair... seriously.