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Neelix dies in a shuttle accident but is revived by Seven of Nine, who uses her nanoprobes to restore his vital signs....

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A so-so episode primarily because I feel that Ethan Phillips is not the greatest actor, and the Neelix character is best suited to a supporting role rather than the focal point of an episode. There are exceptions of course, such as "Homestead". Ethan Phillips bad acting aside, the episode was about Neelix's crisis of faith. After being dead for several hours, Seven's nanoprobes "revive" him. First, this is a terrible precedent to set on the show. Why not have Seven's nanoprobes revive every character who dies from that point on? Why not have Seven's nanoprobes cure aging, and every disease ever encountered? Let's forever ask: Why did this person die? Did we forget about Seven's nanoprobes this episode? Second, Neelix's race has their own version of the "collective consciousness" of the afterlife. He was sure that he would be reunited with his loved ones after death. He dies, he's revived, and has no memory of the afterlife, which leads to an unbearable crisis of faith. Well, I don't know if there is an afterlife, so my conclusion has nothing to do with that, but why would he expect to have memories of an afterlife after being revived? Does it work that way? You can die for a few minutes or a few hours, to be revived by technology, and come back to the mortal coil knowing the mysteries of the universe? How presumptuous. Apparently he didn't have that much faith after all, so there was no crisis of faith to be had. What was his problem then? He should have been happy to be alive. Where's the story in that?
 
One of my favorite episodes. I always felt that Neelix was an underrated character. I don't think he gets a lot of oportunity to show it but I think that Ethan Phillips is a great actor
 
I don't like this episode.
I think that it was cruel to make Neelix lose his faith about seeing his beloved relatives in the afterlife.
 
One of my favorite episodes. I always felt that Neelix was an underrated character. I don't think he gets a lot of oportunity to show it but I think that Ethan Phillips is a great actor

He's terrible. He made a mediocre Neelix. What specific scene would you consider Ethan Phillips at his best?
 
I made up my own head canon about the nano probes. Since using them sent Neelix into a depression, making him suicidal etc they decided to not risk using them again.
 
I liked the episode about a crisis of faith and the question of what makes life worth living. Neelix can be a grating character sometimes but episodes such as Homestead, Jetrel, and of course this one show he wasn't as bad as people make him out to be.

If your religious and hope to see everybody in the afterlife and die and experience void and then get resurrected then it's going to effect you negatively. Period.
 
I didn't like "Homestead" either since I found it stupid to dump Neelix just at the end of the series.
It also made him look like a liar and a traitor since he often stated that he would stand by Captain Janeway's side.

"Jetrel", on the other hand was a masterpiece! :techman:
 
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I didn't like "Homestead" either since I found it stupid to dump Neelix just at the end of the series.
It also made him look like a liar and a traitor since he often stated that he would stand by Captain Janeway's side.

"Jetrel", on the other hand was a masterpiece! :techman:

Jetrel was a very good episode. A real early highlight for Voyager and for Neelix.

I think in homestead, given the situation he was presented with, his choice to leave Voyager was understandable. Maybe even logical.
 
How do people feel about the religious implications of the episode? Or lack their of? Of a death experience with no hope of an afterlife-were there any negative reactions to this at the time?
 
I've always enjoyed Ethan Phillips acting and Neelix himself and how he interacted with Voyager and other characters. I think he went through some gradual character building/improvement especially regarding his relationship with Kes and how possessive he often was.

I can't comment too much on the faith aspect of the episode, as I am not religious, perhaps more a -questioning-spirituality at the moment, but I imagine for anyone, belief in afterlife or not, being declared medically dead for 18 hours and experiencing void during this time, would be emotionally and psychologically questioning if not disturbing. Especially if you relied on such beliefs that you would be reunited with your entire family after losing them all in a horrific war.

His portrayal of mental illness, specifically depression faced from his nihilistic perspective of life and death, and anxiety/panic due to the experience was very accurate, for me anyway. I thought his behaviour in the episode was subtle but accurate, such as of convincing himself that he was okay, lying to others and himself, trying to ignore his negative thoughts but failing as they proggresivly got worse. irritability/aggression with Seven of nine when she was tying to help, avoidance of the subject with chakotays vision quest, the entire psychological torment he faced, and how it grew out of control until it left him feeling there was no alternatives but for him to commit suicide, was well portrayed. It really struck me deep, it reminded me of a time I used to be in, it was realistic and I found it difficult to watch in all honesty-that's why I think it is a good episode, but I've seen it twice and I probably don't intend watching it again unless I want to induce an extisential crisis/ mental breakdown
 
I think it's a good episode. Neelix can sometimes feel overanimated in it, but it makes sense. Love the ending.

All this talk about Phillips got me looking him up, and I immediately found this interview. He's such an amazing guy.(Trekcore, 2001)
"I'm close with all of them," Phillips replies when asked about his friends among the cast. "We have great friendships going here. I get along with everybody. There's not a clinker in the bunch. I'm very close with Kate, who I absolutely adore and admire. I think she's an extraordinary person. She has an unbelievable heart. She's the most professional person and the most generous actress I've ever worked with. If I don't know what I'm doing in a scene with her or I have any confusion or doubt, I just look into her eyes and I find my performance right there. She's just so giving, and always on in a scene. She's the least lazy person I've ever worked with as an actor. She's everything. Jeri, I love. We have a very warm and wonderful, fun relationship, which I also have with Roxann. Robbie McNeill gets a kick out of me, because I constantly wear a Robert Duncan McNeill Fan Club pin on the set. I've become close to Bob Picardo, who is just bright beyond belief. He can juggle a thousand things at once in his head and still make sense of all of them. Garrett is great. He's growing so much as an actor. Robert Beltran is one of the funniest people I've ever met in my life. I've become good friends with Tim Russ. He's an amazing musician. I go to see him play."

Phillips also has some comments on the departure of Jennifer Lien (Kes) from the show. "Well, the official word," he says, "is that the writers felt they had come to an ending as to where they thought they could explore her character. They wanted to bring on somebody new so they could kind of stimulate themselves and use their imaginations." However, her personally believes there was a little more to it than that.

"I think it is probably true that they really did want this new character, and they thought about this Borg having her journey from being part of the collective consciousness all the way down to an individual. There were budget restraints that wouldn't support having ten regulars on the show, and in the final analysis they felt they'd explored Kes enough. That's my take on it. I'm out of contact with Jennifer, but I think she's doing pretty well. She's done some movies and she's back in school now."

Potentially adding the speculation that Phillip's character is leaving the show in the second-last regular episode shot, 'Destiny' is his announcement that he's scheduled to start work on his next project the day after the show wraps. "I'm going to do a play right after this, over at the Pasadena Playhouse," Phillips revealed. "It's called 'Side Man'. It picked up the Tony Award, and of interest to Star Trek fans, Andy Robinson ('Garak', Deep Space 9) is directing it. We wrap Voyager on the 9th, and I start rehearsals for the play on April 10th. No grass is growing under my feet!"

And quite an accomplished actor. Here's a summary from Wikipedia, not even including all the films and TV shows hes been in.
Ethan Phillips received an MFA from Cornell University. He began his show business career in New York City, performing off-Broadway at theaters including Direct Theater, winning the Best of the Actors’ Festival there in 1977; the Wonderhorse Theater, in the premier ofChristopher Durang's The Nature and Purpose of the Universe; and at Playwrights Horizons in a revival of Eccentricities of a Nightingale. Legendary writer, Tennessee Williams who helped shape the latter production, wrote a new monologue for Phillips, which Williams personally dictated to him when it was realized that leading lady Jill Eikenberry needed more time for a dress change.

In 1979–80, Phillips appeared as Utrillo in the premier of Dennis McIntyre's Modigliani at theAstor Place Theater It ran for 208 performances.

Phillips performed in many plays in New York over the next fifteen years, including Terrence McNally's Lips Together, Teeth Apart at the Lucille Lortel, Measure for Measure with Kevin Kline, at the Delacorte Theater; and the premier of My Favorite Year at Lincoln Center as well as new works for Playwrights Horizons[1] theHudson Guild Theater, the American Jewish Theater, and many others.

He went on to appear in the premier of David Mamet's November at the Ethel Barrymore Theater and played the title character oppositePeter Dinklage in the all-male cast of The Imaginary Invalid for Bard College</ref> s 2012 SummerScape Festival. In 2013-14 he appeared as Stanley Levison in Robert Schenkkan's All the Way at the American Repertory Theater Mr. Phillips moved with the show to Broadway’s Neil Simon Theater where the play won Tonys for Best Play and Best Actor Bryan Cranston. More recently Mr. Phillips played leading roles in the premiers of Dennis Kelly’s Taking Care Of Baby, Terrence McNally's Golden Age, and Sharyn Rothstein’s By the Water, all for the Manhattan Theater Club.

Phillips' regional theater credits include leading roles for San Diego's Old Globe Theater, theAlaska Repertory Theater, at Seattle Repertory Theater, at Baltimore's Center Stage, for the[2]Boston Shakespeare Company, Actors Theater of Louisville, The American Repertory Theater, theSalt Lake Acting Co., and the McCarter Theatre. In Los Angeles, Phillips acted in Side Man at the Pasadena Playhouse, in Lips Together, Teeth Apart for the Mark Taper Forum; in You Can't Take It with You at the Geffen Playhouse, in The Bourgeois Gentleman for the Pasadena Symphony, and as Polonius in Hamlet for theUprising Theater.

Phillips has been an actor at the Sundance Playwrights Conference in Utah for six summers, where he developed his play Penguin Blues,[1] which is published by Samuel French Inc. and is included in The Best Short Plays of 1989 (Applause, ed. Ramon Delgado). Based on his experiences at Sundance, Phillips helped found First Stage, a playwright development lab in Los Angeles now in its Thirty-Fifth year.
 
I wasn’t too crazy about the episode on first viewing. It is a very serious and heart wrenching topic. On a recent re-watch I was better able to appreciate Ethan Phillips’ subtle acting. Neelix hasn’t always been used well, I think, but this was a strong exception. I’m not sure whether the actual topic of the episode was a crisis of faith or whether that was simply the catalyst or path to get to the topic of suicide. I have heard elsewhere as well as here (above) that they handled that part very accurately and well.

I liked that Chakotay was utilized to try to help Neelix figure things out. The scene in the transporter room was especially good. I loved Samantha Wildman just cluelessly walking into this situation and holding the key to Neelix finding a reason to live. “Who else can handle monsters in the replicator?” (paraphrased from memory)

I do wish they would have kept some consistency with regards to Chakotay’s spirituality. Way back in “Cathexis” he had a quite profound out of body experience that is never mentioned in these episodes about life after death. And his vision quests go back and forth between dream-like symbolism and what appear to be actual spirit walking with his father or grandfather.

A friend of mine had an experience that was a little like Neelix’. I was telling her about a book I was reading by a UConn professor who had been studying Near Death Experiences for many years. I know three people who have had out of body experiences and then returned and one of them recommended this book. My friend said she didn’t believe in them. I asked why not, and she said that since she has had two rather traumatic life-threatening accidents and never had a “crossover” experience, she decided it couldn’t be real. I asked if her heart had actually stopped either time, and that gave her pause, because it had not.

One study found that while some patients surveyed who had been in a trauma could have an out of body/crossover experience, it was far more likely that patients whose hearts had stopped had had an NDE. But neither was it 100% among the heart patients whose hearts had stopped that they had such an experience.

I am religious and spiritually inclined and have come to believe that our experiences are often geared towards what we may need to learn as individuals and our personal ability to receive them. It may be that some people don’t remember (as jmidnight_99 said) for reasons we don’t understand. I do believe it is not necessary to rest or lose one’s faith upon any singular experience, that there are numerous foundations for faith that one can acquire over time.
 
The thing about these kinds of episodes is that people can really relate to them. When someone is having a personal crisis it's usually something other people have experienced. I don't know what it's like to be in space, or to be involved in a combat situation, or anything about dilithium...but I do know depression and suicidal thoughts. there was a point in my life, not all that long ago when I would have been right next to Neelix on that transporter pad.
 
You know it's kind of interesting-Voyager did have quite a few of these science vs religion episodes

Distant Origin(though that involved politics and legitimacy as well)
Sacred ground(a pro-religion or at least pro-faith episode)
Emanations(an afterlife and its realities and promises)
Mortal coil(afterlife or the lack thereof and scientific means used to achieve resurrection).
 
You know it's kind of interesting-Voyager did have quite a few of these science vs religion episodes

Distant Origin(though that involved politics and legitimacy as well)
Sacred ground(a pro-religion or at least pro-faith episode)
Emanations(an afterlife and its realities and promises)
Mortal coil(afterlife or the lack thereof and scientific means used to achieve resurrection).
Also, Barge of the Dead
 
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