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Remember when Data saved all of humanity 6 times? (at minimum)

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1. Like his favorite holodeck character, Data did the Sherlock Holmes thing and explained the temporal paradox to a hopelessly confused Picard in "All Good Things" so Picard could close the anomaly... using DATA's very own solution.
2. Data uncovered the Romulan ships that were about to make a Romulan-Klingon alliance a reality, which easily would've overpowered the Federation.
3. As the Borg hovered over Earth, Data planted the command that led to the destruction of the cube, and was the only one able to decipher Picard's 1-word attempt at assistance.
4. Again thwarting the Borg, Data killed his own brother who was about to launch a crusade against the Federation and all organics.
5. AGAIN thwarting the Borg, Data reprogrammed the torpedoes that were about to destroy humanity's 1st warp-capable ship, and also released the vapor that led to the Borg Queen's death.
6. Data destroyed the Romulan-Reman ship that was about to end all life on planet Earth - by sacrificing his own life.

Among the cast of ST heroes, Data could be considered at the top or very near to it, for saving humanity no less than 6 times, sacrificing his own brother, and sacrificing his own life. It's cool that there was a "Captain Picard Day," but there should certainly be a "Data Day," too.
 
Eh, if we're listing strict humanity-saving actions, 2 and 4 prevented situations that would have been bad for the Federation but not clearly wiped out humanity.

But you missed Time's Arrow delivering Picard's message prevented the Enterprise from accidentally destroying 19th century Earth.
 
But you missed Time's Arrow delivering Picard's message prevented the Enterprise from accidentally destroying 19th century Earth.

My sincerest apologies. I had considered that episode in the context of 2 aliens taking the lives of a few people who were near death (not affecting humanity's survival as a whole), but forgot about that twist towards the end that put it on a grander scale.

7 times.
 
My sincerest apologies. I had considered that episode in the context of 2 aliens taking the lives of a few people who were near death (not affecting humanity's survival as a whole), but forgot about that twist towards the end that put it on a grander scale.

7 times.

I still say 2 and 4 should be fractional points. 2 a much higher fraction than 4.
 
Yeah, I'm with @JirinPanthosa. #2 would've just caused a pretty bleak war, but not the end of humanity necessarily, & #4 would've unleashed a morbidly devastating threat, but it's not like he'd taken over the entire Borg yet, just a few Borg scraps. Humanity wasn't yet on the line there either

but regardless... he saved every life on Earth & maybe in the UFP enough times that you'd think he'd have gotten at least 1 promotion in 16 years
 
Wait a minute here !
I've never been TNGs biggest fan, nor did I watch it faithfully
But Data sacrificed his own life ?
Data is dead ?
Wow !

Sorry, I didn't think of putting that as a spoiler because it was from ST's last film "Nemesis" which came out 17 years ago. Watch the movie, 'cause a lot of other things happened in that one, too!
 
Technically his sacrificed saved Picard. At the time Earth was already saved and he sent Picard back instead of himself.
 
I like to think of death in Star Trek as being similar to The Princess Bride. Data's only "mostly" dead. Khan? Khan is probably "all" dead lol

Oh crap... Unless we consider alternate timelines/realities. Even Khan is probably still around in some of those. There's just no dead in Star Trek:guffaw:
 
It's cool that there was a "Captain Picard Day," but there should certainly be a "Data Day," too.
Well, there was "Data's Day". But that's probably not what you mean. ;)
Sorry, I didn't think of putting that as a spoiler because it was from ST's last film "Nemesis" which came out 17 years ago. Watch the movie, 'cause a lot of other things happened in that one, too!
I can't recall the board's specific spoiler tagging policy at the moment, but I'm about 99.99999% certain that an amount of time that would allow an entire generation to be born and reach high school is pretty well beyond it. :D
I like to think of death in Star Trek as being similar to The Princess Bride. Data's only "mostly" dead
Well, since Data was essentially a complex of computer programs and information that was transferred to B4 (spoilers, lol!), you'd pretty much be right in his case, at any rate.
 
I like to think of death in Star Trek as being similar to The Princess Bride. Data's only "mostly" dead. Khan? Khan is probably "all" dead lol

Oh crap... Unless we consider alternate timelines/realities. Even Khan is probably still around in some of those. There's just no dead in Star Trek:guffaw:

haha I'm sure B4 would agree with you.

In "Nemesis," we should be able to at least agree that he saved the Enterprise, not only Picard, because the Scimitar was in the middle of powering up to annihilate the Enterprise crew when Data destroyed it. There were other powerful Romulans who had supported Shinzon who would've been happy to finish the job if Data hadn't destroyed the ship.

Between the films mentioned, it's ironic that the Grand Nagus was the only one to stay dead. Never get involved in a land war in Asia, and never go in against a Sicilian when death is on the line! :)
 
Sorry, I didn't think of putting that as a spoiler because it was from ST's last film "Nemesis" which came out 17 years ago. Watch the movie, 'cause a lot of other things happened in that one, too!

I kinda guessed his death would have to occur in a film and not TV
I've never seen "Insurrection" or "Nemesis" so that's why I wasn't in the know ;)
 
6 times...no promotions.

Doesnt pay to be a 'droid in the 'fleet. Glass ceiling.

I say give him the rpomotion and credit before this happens:

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I mean most of these were team efforts, Data wouldn't have been able to save them from the borg if the crew didn't figure out a way to pull Locutus off the borg ship, wouldn't have had a command to implant if it wasn't for Picard's will etc.... plus he suggested studying the cube instead of blowing it up which might have been a disaster
 
Most definitely! But people still tend to assign credit to 1 person in many scenarios (usually Picard), so I just wanted to give him props where it might have gotten overlooked. And to make sure he doesn't lead that 'droid rebellion. :)
 
Data also saved the day in We'll Always Have Paris by patching the rift in Dr. Manheim's lab. It's unclear just what the consequences would have been had the "Manheim Effect" been allowed to continue but likely it wouldn't have been good.
 
1. Like his favorite holodeck character, Data did the Sherlock Holmes thing and explained the temporal paradox to a hopelessly confused Picard in "All Good Things" so Picard could close the anomaly... using DATA's very own solution.
2. Data uncovered the Romulan ships that were about to make a Romulan-Klingon alliance a reality, which easily would've overpowered the Federation.
3. As the Borg hovered over Earth, Data planted the command that led to the destruction of the cube, and was the only one able to decipher Picard's 1-word attempt at assistance.
4. Again thwarting the Borg, Data killed his own brother who was about to launch a crusade against the Federation and all organics.
5. AGAIN thwarting the Borg, Data reprogrammed the torpedoes that were about to destroy humanity's 1st warp-capable ship, and also released the vapor that led to the Borg Queen's death.
6. Data destroyed the Romulan-Reman ship that was about to end all life on planet Earth - by sacrificing his own life.

Among the cast of ST heroes, Data could be considered at the top or very near to it, for saving humanity no less than 6 times, sacrificing his own brother, and sacrificing his own life. It's cool that there was a "Captain Picard Day," but there should certainly be a "Data Day," too.


Just for the heck of it, let me play the role of Maddox here ...

#1) Data only could do that because he was not emotionally invested, since he is a soulless machine with the semblance of intelligence.
#2) Saving humanity? That's drastically overstating the case, isn't it? At most we would have been subjugated, and even that is debatable.
#3) See #2) If we had been assimilated, we still would have been there, just with slightly changed allegiances and goals. Oh, and skin colour.
#4) OK, those Borgs might actually have eradicated all human(oid) life forms, had they grown powerful enough over time. But all it really shows is that it's best to let androids clean up another android's mess. Better yet, don't program these "other" androids to be too human, so they can't make such ethically wrong choices.
#5) Which only goes on to show androids never should be given the semblance of free will. If he hadn't been given such, he couldn't actually have (simulated to have) been tempted by the queen's offer for those 0.68 seconds. Keep in the 'deceit' program that fooled the Queen, though.
#6) As he should, like a good little android. It is there to serve humanoids.
 
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I mean most of these were team efforts, Data wouldn't have been able to save them from the borg if the crew didn't figure out a way to pull Locutus off the borg ship,
By "figure out a way", you mean have Data go get him? lol
wouldn't have had a command to implant if it wasn't for Picard's will etc....
Picard's will doesn't amount to squat without Data & only Data linking to him in a way only Data can do
plus he suggested studying the cube instead of blowing it up which might have been a disaster
Because he suggested studying it doesn't mean it would've been his decision to do so, if say he were in command. He was offering options. That's his job

Face it, without a Data on that ship, everyone dies. Earth is assimilated. With a Data on that ship, & his unique capabilities, all the same avenues of success are just as possible to achieve, no matter who the other parties were,
 
With a Data on that ship, & his unique capabilities, all the same avenues of success are just as possible to achieve, no matter who the other parties were

That doesn't seem to be what the writers were going for... it's not all about Data's abilities. One of the first things Picard does after being freed is mention Riker's unorthodox plan. Not sure they would have made it without Shelby or Worf either. And without Picard's help he wouldn't have come up with the command..

If Data were with some other ship's crew at wolf 359, he probably would not have succeeded at bringing Picard back to even have the chance to examine a drone.

Heck they could easily tell the same story with Geordi figuring out a command with Picard's help instead of Data using some magic tech and still keep the spirit of the episode the same.
 
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