Eh, I mean in the context of "The gods are all incredibly bored and pointless beings that live in a mundane location doing nothing."
Q's fate
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Eh, I mean in the context of "The gods are all incredibly bored and pointless beings that live in a mundane location doing nothing."
Eh...I think that idea might a be a cultural one that goes back a lot longer than either show.
I disagree, boredom is a result of perception. Perhaps the Q and other god like beings are in a state of Samadhi, free of the illusions of time and space.
Perhaps since they are immortal they have nothing to do EXCEPT interfere with lower forms of life. What else is there to do for eternity? How else would they fill their existence?
Explore. Create. Interact with each other.
Except, they're not.
If they are God's, they would have to be omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent, or they are not God's
I recommend watching Voyager's Death Wish.
It's very big. The Q do not naturally die. VOY's Death Wish revealed how hardcoded immortality defined their species and its cost. "For us, the disease is immortality."
Then Q mumbled something about temporal horizons. No mention of why / how, or how the rest of The Continuum was faring, no real curiosity on Picard's part as to why / how (just mention of a god gone mad or somesuch, IIRC). It's all well and good to fill in the head canon with "maybes". Fact remains, S2 wrote over one of The Q's defining traits without explanation.
No less than the Q deserved.
Here's a mind-bender. If God's are immortal (as Q are), but in the episode Quinn dies, does that mean he is not a God?
The Q *are* immortal. Quinn was just one of a multitude of facets or projections of the Continuum that we can perceive, as a I have mentioned earlier a *bit* like light split through a spectrum. When Quinn ‘died’ we only perceived ‘him’ as dying in a way that *we* can comprehend, as he was only one of our interpretations of the same Continuum as we observed it experiencing existence. Quinn’s facet ended, not his ‘essence’ as part of the Q continuum’s consciousness itself. The Q might be *one* consciousness and experience the universe through all of ‘characters’ that we meet in Star Trek. At this point in time during ‘Deathwish’ Q was having a civil war inside it’s own consciousness with it’s many facets facing off against each other with galactic implications, a battle which resulted from the Continuum going slightly insane as a result of it’s own omnipotence. Our ‘De Lancie’ Q was the focal point of the Continuum from humanities perspective… so when Q ‘died’ in Picard it *might* have actually meant that the Continuum had somehow collapsed in on itself, though the Continuum could have emerged in another plane of reality and consciousness *somewhere* in a never ending cycle of rebirth, life and destruction…. Having an ‘hour glass’ cyclic existence.
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I figure the Q are immortal in this specific plane, and when they "die" they are separated from this plan and going to another dimension. Similar to the Elves in Middle Earth. They are immortal in that they are bound to Middle Earth, while humanity, when they die, are actually removed from the plane of Middle Earth.
A single consciousness bound to a repeating cycle of life and death through rebirth would also make such a consciousness immortal. When the cycle of rebirth is broken, that is when immortality is lost or proves that mortality does exist. People assume that by being ‘immortal’ death does not occur. Yes, something existing ‘forever’ would most definitely be considered to be immortal, but if we work on the theory that *nothing* lasts forever, not even the Q, then immortality can still be achieved through ‘cyclic’ existence which I believe is the most likely form of ‘immortality’ going off the patterns of existence that we can perceive in the world around us on all levels of creation, science… and human imagination, as represented in various human interpretations of what life, mortality and immortality is throughout our cultures, beliefs and religions.
Quinn was an attempt to downplay the Q as Gods to just gods to placate irritated vocal religious sects, imo.
Blimey! I was just making a joke. I didn't think it would spark this kind of deep-thought debate. 
Well, it is helpful to remember the difference gods and G-d, in discussions. It trips up many.
@Timofnine
Hindu philosophy.
Hindu philosophy.
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I believe @rahullak was referring to this post and how it felt similar to "Hindu Philosophy" in its cycle of death and rebirth.
