Nods to Newer Trek (DSC, PIC, SNW, PRO or Kelvin Timeline)

[Darth Thanos]

As we all know, Lower Decks is full of nods, mentions, references, and even cameos of Old Trek stuff. But what about the New Trek, and the Kelvin timeline films? There's of course the crossover with Strange New Worlds, but is there something else? Which stuff from Discovery, Picard, Strange New Worlds, Prodigy, or the new films has been the subject of jokes or mentions?

So far I can remember Mariner mentioning "that Pike thing we're not supposed to talk about" (the crossover), William Boimler receiving a black badge when joining Section 31 (Discovery) and Rutherford describing the Vindictaverse as a universe with the same people but younger (the Kelvinverse).

 

[Michael]

Edited the thread title to better reflect what this is about.

Maybe not what you’re looking for, since it’s actually more like Discovery referencing Lower Decks, but in a season five episode Reno mentioned Hysperia.

Then there are the RITOS workout shirts they wear on the Cerritos, which are a riff on the DISCO shirts they sported in season one of Discovery.

And as @F. King Daniel pointed out a while ago, there was another subtle reference to Discovery in “An Embarrassment of Dooplers”, when one of the background aliens used a design that was originally going to be that for Saru. Here.

Having Riker and Troi serving on the Titan could also be seen as a reference to Picard.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

This is all that's jumping to mind right now:

 

[Tiran O'Saurus]

The Crisis Point universe is full of lens flares, another nod to Kelvin. Starbase 80 has some DIS era uniforms.

 

[F. King Daniel]

In 5.07, we see Billups rapelling around the massive Cerritos engineering section, which we'd only ever seen before during the evacuation of the U.S.S. Kelvin in Star Trek 2009.

Also there was the earlier season episode with space jumping, again taken straight from the movie.

 

[matthunter]

In the ep where Q shows up, he mentions it's no fun anymore trying to annoy Picard as "all he does is sit around and drink wine" which was likely a nod to PIC S1 (this was before S2 had him deciding JL was fun again).

 

[NCC-73515]

There may be some in this old thread that was abandoned after a while because it's just full of references

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[tomalak301]

Prodigy gave a nod to Lower Decks in Season 2. I think Lower Decks takes place before Pro and Picard though.

 

[fireproof78]

Prodigy gave a nod to Lower Decks in Season 2. I think Lower Decks takes place before Pro and Picard though.

It does.

 

[Charles Phipps]

DISCO gave a nod to Lower Decks with the fact its replicators only produced hot bananas.

 

[The Wormhole]

Disco gave a more meaningful nod to Lower Decks with a reference to the spider-cows.

 

[NCC-73515]

There is a funny Disco reference in the last episode:

Spoiler

When a Klingon ship is changed to a different reality version, they change into Disco Klingons and that odd Bat of Prey

 

[Tiran O'Saurus]

Oh God. That's not going to restart a bunch of arguments at all.

Spoiler

Clearly an alternate reality where the Augment Virus was never cured and the Klingons kept using Disco-era plastic surgery.

 

[Darth Thanos]

Arguments over what? Discovery's Klingons were cool. What a pity that they moved on to other plots in later seasons and we never saw them again...

 

[JRoss]

LD just referenced the Discovery timeline when they had one of their (Discovery's) Klingons on for a second as an alternate version of what the prime timeline could have been.

 

[F. King Daniel]

LD just referenced the Discovery timeline when they had one of their (Discovery's) Klingons on for a second as an alternate version of what the prime timeline could have been.

But then there's Disco episodes where they literally watch clips of TNG episodes, meaning it must be the same timeline.

Then there's SNW saying Romulan agents moved the Eugenics Wars, and Lower Decks crossing over with SNW which is a spin off of Disco so it's all a total mess.

 

[JRoss]

But then there's Disco episodes where they literally watch clips of TNG episodes, meaning it must be the same timeline.

Then there's SNW saying Romulan agents moved the Eugenics Wars, and Lower Decks crossing over with SNW which is a spin off of Disco so it's all a total mess.

It do be a mess. Following the rules of '09, I think Discovery can really only be a parallel timeline. The Red Angel was so much time travel, and it started when Michael was a child, that it had to have split the timeline. I think "safe" time travel basically includes Guinan and her fellow Time Lords, Q, and any other episode where they say "Sure are glad we didn't bork up anything."

So that basically puts Discovery, SNW (almost certainly), Starfleet Academy, and Section 31 in one "strand," JJVerse in another, and the rest of the live action and LD and PRO are in the "main" one.

As far as the footage stuff of TNG, it'll have to just be "their" Picard's crew having a really suspiciously similar adventure. Or that the portal between LD and SNW was also multiversal. Star Trek LOVES its "everything still sort of happens" alternate timelines.

 

[Emperor-Tiberius]

It do be a mess. Following the rules of '09, I think Discovery can really only be a parallel timeline. The Red Angel was so much time travel, and it started when Michael was a child, that it had to have split the timeline. I think "safe" time travel basically includes Guinan and her fellow Time Lords, Q, and any other episode where they say "Sure are glad we didn't bork up anything."

So that basically puts Discovery, SNW (almost certainly), Starfleet Academy, and Section 31 in one "strand," JJVerse in another, and the rest of the live action and LD and PRO are in the "main" one.

As far as the footage stuff of TNG, it'll have to just be "their" Picard's crew having a really suspiciously similar adventure. Or that the portal between LD and SNW was also multiversal. Star Trek LOVES its "everything still sort of happens" alternate timelines.

I largely agree. But, I would include ENT in the DISCO/SNW group, though I'd argue it like this: This is a timeline that was borne out of the Eugenics Wars. So, while the fourth season of ENT might have led, timeline-wise, into TOS and the rest, DISCO/SNW version of past events are more in-line with the first three seasons, visually.

But more importantly, broadly speaking, all the events of ENT/SNW/DISCO actually happened, with the same characters involved, but in the Prime-verse, the visual aesthetic definitely was different. With all that that entails.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

It's at times like this that I repeat myself:

In a universe where the Temporal Cold War (indeed, multiple wars) is a thing, there is logically no such thing as an 'original' timeline. For all we know, even TOS is the result of multiple temporal incursions.

You can't prove it wasn't, anyway.

 

[Darth Thanos]

So, some alternate universe has Discovery Klingons. How would that make Discovery not canon? We have also seen alternate T'Pol, Garak, Bashir, Kim... and nobody says that Enterprise, Deep Space 9, or Voyager are not canon. In fact, William Boimler has spelled it out: all you ever find in the multiverse are carbon copies of the people from the Sacred Timeline. And T'Lyn confirms it: similarity is at 97%, only divergences are things like one saying "fascinating" and the other "remarkable".