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Most Anoying Star Trek Character ever

Gray annoyed me as well. Whenever he was in a scene with Adira, the action just ground to a halt. All those two ever did was stand around making googly eyes at each other.

At first, I thought they were actually gonna do something interesting with Gray, because he kind of looked like a ninja for awhile. But then they shipped him off to Trill to become a guardian...
 
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They could've done such interesting stuff with him... new body, changed to his liking, but Adira disapproves cause it's not the same guy they fell in love with... how much of a person do you really see and develop feelings for when the body is changed... all that stuff and more could've been season four :shrug:
 
As in the character who annoyed me, personally, subjectively the most?

Vic Fontaine. Don't shove your terrible taste in music into innocent scifi shows, Mr.Behr!
Vic Fontaine is one of the reasons why the last season of DS9 was so disappointing. I don't like his shtick and he sticks out like sore thumb with the rest of the show.
 
Gray annoyed me as well. Whenever he was in a scene with Adira, the action just ground to a halt. All those two ever did was stand around making googly eyes at each other.

At first, I thought they were actually gonna do something interesting with Gray, because he kind of looked like a ninja for awhile. But then they shipped him off to Trill to become a guardian...

I found scenes of Culber, Adira and Grey in early parts of Discovery Season 4 grating. As you say, gooey eyes and the word “seen” continually spoken as “seeeen”.

I know what they were getting at, I think it’s vital and important that Trek features characters of all orientations, but to me it was all a bit of a sledgehammer.
 
Yeah, they made a big deal in the series and in interviews how Gray was going to be "truly seen".
And then once his non-story was resolved he was never seen again. I mean the series does earn points for having an arc where the first transgender actor in Star Trek plays a character who gets a body that matches who they are in their mind, but once the writers had ticked that off their list they just dropped him and moved right on.

It wouldn't have been so bad if his plot had included... a plot, instead of just being 'we're going to carry out a procedure', 'I'm worried it isn't going to work', 'it worked'.

But I can't blame Gray for that.
 
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Vic Fontaine is one of the reasons why the last season of DS9 was so disappointing. I don't like his shtick and he sticks out like sore thumb with the rest of the show.

Agree so much! I mean really, why waste two whole episodes on the shitty hologram singer and a terrible baseball game when it's the last season and the show's epic myth arc needs to be resolved? Or really why waste episodes on the shitty hologram singer and a base ball game ever, under any circumstances?

I despise Q and refuse to watch his TNG episodes.
Yeah Q is a close second, never understood why he's so popular or why DeLancie's performance is so praised. Plus I don't like "omnipotent" aliens. And his episodes on TNG often stank off "we need another bottle episode, let's bring in DeLancie and have him play around with costumes and props from the studio stock!"
 
I despise Q and refuse to watch his TNG episodes.

See my last about pitchforks. Don't worry, they're well hidden.

Or really why waste episodes on the [lousy] hologram singer and a base ball game ever, under any circumstances?

Because DS9 was often dark and grim, and went places no other pre-2016 Trek dared go. But it knew the necessity of a little fun every now and then. Sometimes it did this well, other times you got a stinker like "Profit and Lace".

Wesley "I'm with Starfleet we don't lie" Crusher

He had his annoying moments, all right. Mostly when he set aside the usual adolescent actions of popping zits, studying, or mooning over a girl to save the ship yet again.
 
Because DS9 was often dark and grim, and went places no other pre-2016 Trek dared go. But it knew the necessity of a little fun every now and then. Sometimes it did this well, other times you got a stinker like "Profit and Lace".

I'd rather watch Profit and Lace. ;)

I say this without fear because I've locked up all the torches and pitchforks. :nyah:

That won't save you :evil:
 
Because DS9 was often dark and grim, and went places no other pre-2016 Trek dared go. But it knew the necessity of a little fun every now and then. Sometimes it did this well, other times you got a stinker like "Profit and Lace".
That reminds me. Zek is also high on annoying characters list.
 
I realize I forgot about Mr. "X vas inwented in Rahsha!" Chekov for being a walking Soviet stereotype ina silly wig.
I think I find him more annoying than Q.
So for me it's like:
1.Vic Fontaine
2.Chekov
3.Q
 
Neelix has his moments, but I appreciated his background - which helps justify it. Not to mention, the scene where Tuvok, after a mindmeld with Suder that went wrong, strangles him is so popular that YouTube automatically adds the remaining words by the time the first syllable of "strangles" is typed in for the keyphrase "Tuvok strangles Neelox". So he's clearly not that bad... :biggrin: (the acting of it's pretty great too...)

Now on the other hand (and I wish I was a species that had three of them as they'd come in handy at times but that's not important right now), Wesley Crusher - particularly in season 1 and a few certain outings post-season 3 was true cringe.

Vic Fontaine was invented late in the series, has no grand purpose - apart form belting out some goofy Troi-esque advice trope that just fell flat*, and proved there were characters far worse than the proverbial lovechild of Neelix+Wesley. It's also amazing that he wasn't in the baseball episode...

* IMHO, a computer telling a person how to emote is a tad ludicrous incredulously cringeworthy, responding to a query of prerecorded datasets and is more likely going to be inaccurate compared to an actual biological gooey being, but YMMV... sometimes the dataset can be accurate (but not always complete... like when two people otherwise agree that "too much dessert is bad" but neither will have the same reason as to why... especially if the doughnut's been out for long enough and some ants crawled on it, ate tiny bits out of it and then put their droppings into it (in either order), and the other person had nary a clue all that happened - what, there's only one possible reason that too much dessert can be bad for your health and that's not the one? Drat...)

Granted, Q Jr (??!) from VOY was impressively horrendous a character idea as well. I never cared for the "Let's make the Q Continuum 'accessible and more easily explained' by using everyday allusion" - which quickly turned into a bizarre version of "The Dating Game"/"The Newlywed Game" for no reason, and apparently making a omnipotent baby via old fashioned squishy means will somehow save the day. Uh, okay... On top of other bizarre scenes... (that aside, the rave scene was admittedly amusing... the tribunal scene just proved VOY was running on fumes by then too...)
 
It was basically Season 14 of TNG with a new set of characters. Granted, I've gotten a bit more accepting of that fact, but when you're playing a formula for that long, ideas start to run short.
 
Agree so much! I mean really, why waste two whole episodes on the shitty hologram singer and a terrible baseball game when it's the last season and the show's epic myth arc needs to be resolved? Or really why waste episodes on the shitty hologram singer and a base ball game ever, under any circumstances?
Agree with the baseball stuff (at least it gave us the Fed Anthem though), but the Vic episode was more of an Ocean's 11 than Vic-focused.
Wasn't it great how Vic brought Odo and Kira together?
That episode after Nog lost his leg is one of my most hated episodes through all of Star Trek.
This is the first time I read any negativity about that episode. It seems to be praised by almost everyone.
 
It was basically Season 14 of TNG with a new set of characters. Granted, I've gotten a bit more accepting of that fact, but when you're playing a formula for that long, ideas start to run short.

Question, which do you think was worse overall: TNG season 7 or VGR season 7?
 
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