That was the point.
The F**k word in Star Trek
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In fairness, Kirk was so upset he forgot how to sit down!
The man's son had just been murdered, I think he can be excused an inappropriate comment on the matter.
Racist? Nope. Totally understandable given the context? Yes.
Fun Fact: when I was 19 I was attacked, robbed and beaten by three guys, none of whom were of my race.
In the hours before, I and a couple of friends spent the evening in New York city and met up with a random group of prom goers who were also not of my race. We had a blast, there was no racism, no judgement, no fear, just a bunch of guys laughing and bonding over music.
By the time I get out of the hospital a week after the attack, I was racist. Terrified and angry at all of them. It took a LOT of time, introspection and growing to rid myself of that.
Kirk just had his son murdered by Klingons. His reaction is understandable and he is the only one of the group in Star Trek 6 I totally get that still holds onto that. By the time the movie ended, he was over it. It happens. Makes us human.
In the hours before, I and a couple of friends spent the evening in New York city and met up with a random group of prom goers who were also not of my race. We had a blast, there was no racism, no judgement, no fear, just a bunch of guys laughing and bonding over music.
By the time I get out of the hospital a week after the attack, I was racist. Terrified and angry at all of them. It took a LOT of time, introspection and growing to rid myself of that.
Kirk just had his son murdered by Klingons. His reaction is understandable and he is the only one of the group in Star Trek 6 I totally get that still holds onto that. By the time the movie ended, he was over it. It happens. Makes us human.
Some might say he evolved.
Frak that.
The only reason people didn't really swear on Star Trek until the end of Enterprise was the FCC, let's be real. Even the TNG cast would have dropped several F bombs had they been allowed to. You think the Borg could have cut into the saucer like they did without someone on the bridge freaking out? The woman sticking out of the floor? Beverly seeing dead bodies rise in the morgue? Barclay's obvious sex with Troi and beating dumbass Riker holodeck programs? Everyone almost dying from radiation poisoning or various curious or confused aliens?
It's interesting, for all people complain about the profanity in Picard, in the first two seasons it's only the new characters who use any actual swear words while Picard himself as well as any other TNG characters or really any returning characters from the other shows most definitely do not. It's not until the third season that we start hearing Picard and the other TNG characters saying words like fuck or other forms of profanity they wouldn't have used in TNG, which curiously is not complained about by anyone who took issue with "sheer fucking hubris" previously. But then, it's well documented that the Cult are willing to let things slide in S3 of Picard they were vehemently against in all other modern Treks.
I both think they swear too much and not enough, but I work in a warehouse and am Aussie so I don't really know what I expect.
Personally if I didn't mention the swearing it was because I tend to group all that stuff together in one 'got the tone wrong' pile. They're walking around pitch black starship hallways, the captain is an asshole, Worf is praising Section 31, folks are getting murdered all over the place, Starfleet security is beating up Riker. The use of language doesn't help, but fixing it wouldn't resolve the larger problem.
Riker gets beat up by an admiral.
Section 31 helped resolve the war and Worf would know that better than anyone else on the crew.
Shaw is definitely a problem.
Yeah, season 3 is a mixed bag.
Section 31 helped resolve the war and Worf would know that better than anyone else on the crew.
Shaw is definitely a problem.
Yeah, season 3 is a mixed bag.
No, even if the FCC didn't regulate profanity at all, the advertisers would.
Realistically Kirk would be expected to shout ''Son of a BITCH!'' every time one his guards croaked in THE APPLE, but that SOUTH PARK touch would certainly kill the drama of it all.
Oh my god! You killed Redshirt! You BASTARD!
He was young and inexperienced, so we left him out of the briefing.
You put on the uniform and risk is a part of the game. Boldly go forward because we can't find reverse.
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