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Main Differences Between The Outer Limits & The Twilight Zone?

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Yes, what is the main difference between The Outer Limits and The Twilight Zone?

My own feeling is that The Outer Limits is sci-fi, and The Twilight Zone is fantasy.

But is this correct?

(The main reason for asking is that I haven´t seen that much of The Twilight Zone, so my impression may be totally wrong.)
 
I haven't seen nearly enough of either, but while this can't possibly be the main difference, I think it's worth pointing out that The Outer Limits (at least the newer, allegedly lesser version) had a heck of a lot of aliens in it. Probably foreshadowed Brad Wright's desire to do something like SG-1, now that I think of it.

I don't recall seeing much of that in The Twilight Zone.
 
The Outer Limits tends to be strait forward sci-fi, while Twilight Zone though sci-fi is often part, tends more towards morality tales and O. Henry-esque plot twists. Both great shows that TV producers are hard pressed to create equals to. The Twilight Zone had a much longer run and one can debate quite a bit about its best period, I prefer the first two seasons, though all have some very strong episodes.
 
I have watched many more Twilight Zone episodes than Outer Limits episodes over the years, but it seems that whenever I have seen Outer Limits, the story has dealt with a monster (the monster may be a misunderstood being, but it is still a monster in that it is a freaky looking creature effect or man in a costume), whereas I feel that monsters are rare on Twilight Zone. Just my own observation, and my sampling size for Limits is admittedly small.
 
My own feeling is that The Outer Limits is sci-fi, and The Twilight Zone is fantasy.

But is this correct?

Sort of, but not quite. OL was science fiction all the way, always dealing with aliens and superscience and the like rather than anything supernatural (as far as I can recall). TZ was more eclectic with regard to genre; it was generally fantasy and supernatural horror but had plenty of science fiction as well, and sometimes blurred the lines between fantasy and SF (e.g. "Death Ship"). It even had a couple of episodes that were straight suspense with no fantasy/SF elements at all. Serling's goal was to use speculative fiction as a vehicle for social commentary or challenging drama that would have too much trouble getting past censors if it weren't encoded in "unreal" scenarios. He didn't care whether the "unreality" came from magic or from aliens and spaceflight.


I have watched many more Twilight Zone episodes than Outer Limits episodes over the years, but it seems that whenever I have seen Outer Limits, the story has dealt with a monster (the monster may be a misunderstood being, but it is still a monster in that it is a freaky looking creature effect or man in a costume), whereas I feel that monsters are rare on Twilight Zone.

That's right. The network insisted on a "monster of the week," over the objections of the creators, who wanted something more subtle and intellectual. So they did their best to tell intelligent, thought-provoking science-fiction stories that happened to have monsters in them. TZ was more about suspense, mystery, psychological horror, O. Henry-style twists and shock endings, that sort of thing (although it occasionally and often disastrously dabbled in comedy).


There's also the distinction that OL was an hourlong show while most of TZ was in a half-hour format. TZ's fourth season (of five) was hourlong, but the stories were often overly padded and not as effective. Its focus on suspense and shock twists and such was better suited to a "short story" pacing as opposed to the "novelette" pacing of OL.

Indeed, quite a few TZ episodes were adapted from published short stories, making it one of the most "literary" SF anthologies ever made. Rod Serling was an accomplished television playwright, but TZ's other regular writers, Charles Beaumont and Richard Matheson (and occasionally George Clayton Johnson), were well-known prose authors with numerous published works under their belts, many of which they adapted for the show. In other cases, Serling bought other authors' stories (such as Jerome Bixby's "It's a Good Life") and he or one of the other regulars adapted them for the screen. I think a few OL episodes were based on pre-existing stories, but not many. (That was a more common practice on the Showtime anthology series of the same name, though I've never really considered that show a legitimate continuation of OL since it's very different in style and sensibilities.)
 
Rod Serling was an accomplished television playwright, but TZ's other regular writers, Charles Beaumont and Richard Matheson (and occasionally George Clayton Johnson), were well-known prose authors with numerous published works under their belts, many of which they adapted for the show.


This is the part where I mention that Matheson turns 85 today, and has a new novel coming out next month . . . .
 
I wouldn't say Twilight Zone is "fantasy". Twilight Zone simply has access to a broader palatte. Outer Limits was confined strictly to SF stories, while TZ could do horror, supernatural, fantasy and even real-life stories with a twist, which is why Serling was able to incorporate the French film An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge (which isn't anything supernatural) into the series. Even The Monsters Are Due on Maple Street is only rendered SF by its tag scene - I personally think the episode would have been stronger without it.

Alex
 
The main difference is that the Twilight Zone is one of the best TV series in history, created by one of the undisputed masters of the medium and the Outer Limits is an occasionally entertaining rip off.
 
Major difference is that Outer Limits (especially the 90s version) had darker endings much more often than Twilight Zone.
 
The main difference is that the Twilight Zone is one of the best TV series in history, created by one of the undisputed masters of the medium and the Outer Limits is an occasionally entertaining rip off.

I don't think that's fair at all. While it was influenced by TZ, it's too distinct in format, genre, and style to be dismissed as a mere "ripoff." After all, it's not like these are the only two genre anthologies in television history; OL was also influenced by Science Fiction Theatre, a show that predated TZ. OL may not have been as good as TZ, but it's certainly one of the three best genre shows of the '60s, alongside TZ and Star Trek.


Major difference is that Outer Limits (especially the 90s version) had darker endings much more often than Twilight Zone.

Again, I don't think the two shows bearing the Outer Limits name can really be treated as the same entity at all. The Showtime revival series was quite different in many ways, and generally not nearly as good. There was generally a sense of wonder to the original series; while the aliens and monsters and inventions could often be dangerous, they were also often misunderstood, noble, or inspiring. The Showtime series was much more Luddite, constantly telling cautionary tales about the evils of progress and innovation. It often felt more like anti-science fiction than science fiction, since any attempt to expand human knowledge or technology almost invariably resulted in a horrible fate and a preachy closing narration about Things Man Was Not Meant to Know. Plus, in the early seasons, in order to justify being on pay cable, there was a lot of sexual content and nudity, making it quite different in tone and emphasis from the original Outer Limits.
 
I wouldn't say Twilight Zone is "fantasy". Twilight Zone simply has access to a broader palatte. Outer Limits was confined strictly to SF stories, while TZ could do horror, supernatural, fantasy and even real-life stories with a twist, which is why Serling was able to incorporate the French film An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge (which isn't anything supernatural) into the series. Even The Monsters Are Due on Maple Street is only rendered SF by its tag scene - I personally think the episode would have been stronger without it.

Alex

And if I recall right, the remake of Maple Street for the 2002-ish version omits the aliens and replaces them with a human experiment into human responses to paranoia (as hinted by the slight title change to The Monsters Are On Maple Street).
 
The main difference is that the Twilight Zone is one of the best TV series in history, created by one of the undisputed masters of the medium and the Outer Limits is an occasionally entertaining rip off.


That's way too harsh, IMHO. The original OUTER LIMITS was a smart, intelligent show that produced many classic episodes. "Demon with a Glass Hand," "Soldier," "Do Not Open Until Doomsday," "The Architects of Fear," etc.

It also scared the hell out of me when I was a kid . . . .
 
Serling definitely intended TZ to be perceived as a fantasy/SF/horror show. It was his inability to get past network censorship to talk about racism, war, and other social issues that motivated him to develop a show that would let him cloak that commentary in fanciful settings, sneak it past the censors by pretending he was talking about aliens and make-believe characters rather than about our world. I once saw a recording of an interview Serling did with Dan Rather before TZ premiered, and when Rather asked, "Does doing a sci-fi show mean you're giving up on trying to say anything serious and meaningful?" Serling glibly said yes, that he was done with all that intelligent, sophisticated, challenging stuff and just wanted to explore the imagination, with no deeper messages intended at all. Which was, of course, a lie to fool the network censors and advertisers into letting him put this deeply subversive show on television.
 
I've never seen much of the original Outer Limits, but there are some really good stories in the more modern series. Of course, it should be interesting to note that it started out on Showtime, I think, then moved to network TV. The first season tends to be rather racy and edgy due to that. And while the series is in syndication, the latter seasons are rather rare and are hardly shown, and I think they carry different licenses, as I remember two channels running the Outer Limits, and one of them only ran it up to a certain season, while the other channel only had access to the later seasons. I've become quite a big fan of Outer Limits over the years.
 
Of course, it should be interesting to note that it started out on Showtime, I think, then moved to network TV.

Rather, it moved from a premium cable network (Showtime) to a non-premium one (SciFi), just as Stargate SG-1 had previously done. It also released episodes in syndication a year after their cable broadcast, and often shot two versions of the sexy scenes, one with nudity for the Showtime airing and one without for the syndicated airing.


The first season tends to be rather racy and edgy due to that.

In fact, it was on Showtime for six of its seven years, and had episodes with nudity and sexual content throughout that span. There's a DVD called The Outer Limits: Sex and Science Fiction, collecting episodes that focus on sexual themes and contain nudity, and it had entries from as late as season 6.
 
The newer OL had too many downer endings for my taste. By this I don't mean a grim ending that was well foreshadowed or that the characters blindly earned through ignorance or foolishness. I just mean ones where no lesson or victory is even possible, and where the victory of the wrong side is foreordained almost solely by the writers, not the situation they set up. Of course, the 2002 TZ went even further in that direction, starting with its first ep. Also, are twist endings even possible anymore, save by the most clever and well-thought-out set-up imaginable--which most of these are not? The baddy wins was once a shocking twist--then 1975 came along.
 
Of course, it should be interesting to note that it started out on Showtime, I think, then moved to network TV.

Rather, it moved from a premium cable network (Showtime) to a non-premium one (SciFi), just as Stargate SG-1 had previously done. It also released episodes in syndication a year after their cable broadcast, and often shot two versions of the sexy scenes, one with nudity for the Showtime airing and one without for the syndicated airing.


The first season tends to be rather racy and edgy due to that.
In fact, it was on Showtime for six of its seven years, and had episodes with nudity and sexual content throughout that span. There's a DVD called The Outer Limits: Sex and Science Fiction, collecting episodes that focus on sexual themes and contain nudity, and it had entries from as late as season 6.


Had no idea it was on there for so long, but there's one particular episode I remember seeing while in syndication, and we must have gotten the original version, because there was some nudity in it. Was quite surprised. But it also explains why I said the later seasons are harder to find. Those later seasons hardly air anymore and they seem to be treated separately from the rest of the series.
 
What happened in 1975?

It was half a made-up date on my part, and half-fact. The late 60's and early 70's were to my mind when the 'bad end' broke out and defied expectations, ala Night Of The Living Dead and the original Wicker Man. Past that general era, and especially in the last fifteen to twenty years, I think there are only a handful of horror pieces, TV or Movie, where any sort of 'good end' can even be claimed. And if the villain is any sort of body-swapper, I think there's exactly one.

I'm not arguing for all bright shiny endings. It just seems like the creative people who make horror pieces still think its 1975, and the killer/evil triumphing will shock audiences who have never seen such a thing before. It's no longer original. The end of The Mist was actually very original, while still being a major downer.

Even Serling subjected some of his characters to some pretty grim, unjust fates. But at least we understood how they got there, and a villain was as apt to encounter an unexpected setback as a hero.
 
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