Lindelof talks title, and time gap
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Not in the article but in the video of the interview he said that the time gap is significantly less than the real life gap between movies.
Actually, not too long ago I saw an old trailer for Star Trek Generations 2, which apparently was, at one time, thought to be the title of First Contact, so you bring up a very good point there with Generations. Would Star Trek Generations 2 been a better title than First Contact??
Certainly not. Generations was called that because it was the meeting of two generations, Kirk's and Picard's. FC was a pure TNG-era movie, so the title wouldn't have worked there. (Although I guess you could make a case that it was a meeting between Picard's generation and Cochrane's, but that's a huge reach, and it loses the resonance with the TNG title since it's not about different generations of Enterprise crew specifically.)
And as a rule I'm not fond of movie titles that are just an earlier film's title with a number after it. I think it's lazy. To me, every story deserves its own title.
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For the most part, this thread made me laugh; love the title ideas!
Just wanted to jump in to say that I read somewhere (probably on Memory Alpha) that when TVH was released in theaters in Australia, they titled it literally "The Voyage Home" and didn't include "Star Trek" or "Star Trek IV" on any of the marketing material. Apparently, this was done to broaden the appeal of the movie to general audiences rather than just fans of Star Trek. I can see this method being put to use today, also. I feel like with this reboot, the filmmakers are trying to appeal to everyone, not just to fans of the franchise. So the elimination of "Star Trek," or at least the act of downplaying it so it's not an integral part of the title, sounds plausible.
I do think that whatever title is chosen, it should be reflective of the theme of the film; so something like "Starship Enterprise" or a variation of it feels too vague and general.
Just wanted to jump in to say that I read somewhere (probably on Memory Alpha) that when TVH was released in theaters in Australia, they titled it literally "The Voyage Home" and didn't include "Star Trek" or "Star Trek IV" on any of the marketing material. Apparently, this was done to broaden the appeal of the movie to general audiences rather than just fans of Star Trek. I can see this method being put to use today, also. I feel like with this reboot, the filmmakers are trying to appeal to everyone, not just to fans of the franchise. So the elimination of "Star Trek," or at least the act of downplaying it so it's not an integral part of the title, sounds plausible.
I do think that whatever title is chosen, it should be reflective of the theme of the film; so something like "Starship Enterprise" or a variation of it feels too vague and general.
So was "The Dark Knight," but it worked for the movie.
Not at all. "The Dark Knight" is appropriate in at least three ways: 1) He took on the mantle of a Knight. 2) He and the movie were "dark" in their own ways. 3) He became a villain of sorts.
"Starship Enterprise" on the other hand conveys nothing more than is already known.
That was Europe, because ST III got an extremely limited theatrical release and had also not yet come out on VHS sell-thru there either. Australia actually received the US theatrical prints and poster art (with a revised premiere date).
The UK daybills, though, presented the title as
"THE VOYAGE HOME:
Star Trek IV"
and focused on Kirk, Spock (in Starfleet uniform - airbrushed over his white robes - and headband and white boots) plus the Punk Rocker in 20th century San Francisco.
and when the film came out on VHS in UK/Europe (and Australasia), Paramount added a new prologue explaining the events of ST II and III, and a title in which the "O" in the title was created by the probe's round antenna thingie.
Yes. Emphasizing that it was a lighter, comedy sci fi romp certainly helped attract the wider population to a ST movie, esp. those burned by the media frenzy that may have attracted some of them to the rather atypical/"boring" ST:TMP.
^ Did that little prologue sequence in the VHS UK/Europe release ever wind up included in any US tapes? I ask because my grandmother had a blank tape she recorded the film with at some point; I remember the label being "Star Trek The One With The Whales" (my non-Trekkie mother jotted that one down when I was, like, a year old) and I specifically recall the prologue sequence.
It's possible my memory is playing tricks with me, but I've definitely seen that prologue, and I could swear it was on that tape, which I watched over and over again as a kid.
It's possible my memory is playing tricks with me, but I've definitely seen that prologue, and I could swear it was on that tape, which I watched over and over again as a kid.
^ This! LoL!
And hey, thanks for the clarification and expanded info on the European/Australian marketing! Interesting! Going back to look for that image of Kirk, Spock and the punk rock kid. LoL
And hey, thanks for the clarification and expanded info on the European/Australian marketing! Interesting! Going back to look for that image of Kirk, Spock and the punk rock kid. LoL
You know, I sometimes think Paramount should just break down and retitle Movie #4 "Star Trek: The One with the Whales" since that's how much pretty the entire world refers to it. Only hardcore Trekkies know that the actual title is "The Voyage Home."
Haha, yep...
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