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Not sure who you think LA Graf is, but I don't recall that any of the three writers under that shared pseudonym have contributed here.

Naming minor characters as in-jokes, to any readers with a common interest, is not "lazy", it is simply homage. Plucking names at random from a phonebook would be lazy, too, by your standards, just not easily identified. I have been Tuckerized in several Trek novels. It is a thrill to me, but something that only a few people ever pick up on. (Well, I guess I tell too many people.)

Some writers even auction off the naming rights in novels to fans, raising money for charity. Also "lazy", or just fun?
Juvenile. This is why most Trek novels will never be considered to be anything more than adventure stories for adolescents. Diane Duane and Margaret Wander Bonnano did not stoop to such inane antics. Let’s support serious Trek literature, not cheap jokes for the people “living in their mothers’ basements”.
 
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Juvenile. This is why most Trek novels will never be considered to be anything more than adventure stories for adolescents. Diane Duane and Margaret Wander Bonnano did not stoop to such inane antics. Let’s support serious Trek literature, not cheap jokes for the people “living in their mothers’ basements”.

From this statement, it's pretty easy to make some wide sweeping generalisations about your world view.
 
Diane Duane and Margaret Wander Bonnano did not stoop to such inane antics.

Yep, Diane Duane would never tuckerize anyone. :rolleyes:


This gets into the not-so-guilty-pleasures department. I like to tuckerize. With this caveat: I have no time for the “if you’re not nice to me I’ll put you in a book and kill you horribly” kind of thing. I have never included any real-life person as a character in my work who I didn’t really like, or who wasn’t a good friend. Life’s too short. When you’re having a good time, it’s your friends you want around you.

And those inclusions are all over the damn place. Over thirty-plus years and fifty-plus novels, screenplays, comic scripts, computer games and whatnot, I can’t think of a single one of them that doesn’t include a tuckerization of some kind. Friends appear as starship captains and in passenger manifests. There are people who die heroically (by request), people who survive heroically and are action heroes (like the owner of a favorite Dublin restaurant). Neighbors appear, other writers appear, business associates appear. Etc., etc. (Sometimes when other writers are involved, the gesture gets returned, which is sweet.)

In the YW books alone: Nita is (ETA for clarity) named after a real person – not a young person – with a name change. Ponch was a real dog (with a name change). Picchu was a real macaw (no name change). Ed was a present to a friend who likes sharks (name altered. And just as well: imagine the excitement of fitting Ed'rashtekaresket onto a driver’s license). There are many other incidences of this kind scattered across over the nine books.

And then of course we come to Tom and Carl. At the time I introduced them into the series, I don’t think I was clear how integral they were going to become to business when I included their names. But now, well, there they are. Hindsight being twenty-twenty as usual, had I known then what I know now, I would have changed their names. I didn’t.

Now, however, I need to avoid having people do what my mother would have called “jumping to concussions” about the real people from things that are going on in the fictional narrative. The YW series is obviously not a roman à clef, but it’s never wise to underestimate people’s ability to act like dingbats. When the series eventually goes to screen, the publishers will have an excuse to bring all the first nine books out in new covers, in the New Millennium Edition versions: and when that happens I can make some discreet name changes and then move on to other things. (Of which at that point there will be way too many.)
 
Apology not accepted. You're really posting something like that here? This is one of the last places I would have expected to get this kind of fucking bullshit from someone.

I don't really understand the implications behind their remark, it does seem rather childlike and immature though and completely counter to the air of superiority they're trying to give off.
 
It might be more of an American thing, but it's basically calling me a loser nerd.
 
I don't really understand the implications behind their remark, it does seem rather childlike and immature though and completely counter to the air of superiority they're trying to give off.
He's insulting a fellow poster. ORIGINALVIEWER is being disrespectful.
 
Arrived today
Star Trek The Original Series - Inception

Star Trek The Original Series - Crisis Of Conscious

Star Trek Legaices - Book 1 Captain to Captain

Star Trek Department Of Temporal Investigations - Forgotten History
 
I’m also going back to Jules Verne, the Homer Of The Teenagers. That man could write!

The Federation - Serve it or Don’t Wear A Mask!
 
Here’s a review on Amazon:

“...And perhaps most offensive to the intellect, the authors decided to mine the early 1990s roster of the Pittsburgh Penguins for character names. Why do such a thing, which will surely be found out? What, did they think there were no SF/ST:TOS fans who also followed ice hockey? It's not just that it's lazy, it's that it's needlessly lazy. It isn't hard to come up with credible supporting character surnames. One need not swipe them from one's hometown hockey team--and if one does so anyway, one will surely be found out...”
I wouldn’t call it lazy. How about you try writing a book and coming up with 40 or 50 names for characters. You can’t call everyone “Smith” or “Jones”.
 
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